From: Matt Corallo <netdev-list@mattcorallo.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Keyu Man <kman001@ucr.edu>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
davem@davemloft.net, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, dsahern@kernel.org,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Zhiyun Qian <zhiyunq@cs.ucr.edu>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: DoS Attack on Fragment Cache
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:30:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6467c1c-54f5-8681-6e7d-aa1d9fc2ff32@bluematt.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210417075030.GA14265@1wt.eu>
See-also "[PATCH] Reduce IP_FRAG_TIME fragment-reassembly timeout to 1s, from 30s" (and the two resends of it) - given
the size of the default cache (4MB) and the time that it takes before we flush the cache (30 seconds) you only need
about 1Mbps of fragments to hit this issue. While DoS attacks are concerning, its also incredibly practical (and I do)
hit this issue in normal non-adversarial conditions.
Matt
On 4/17/21 03:50, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 12:42:39AM -0700, Keyu Man wrote:
>> How about at least allow the existing queue to finish? Currently a tiny new
>> fragment would potentially invalid all previous fragments by letting them
>> timeout without allowing the fragments to come in to finish the assembly.
>
> Because this is exactly the principle of how attacks are built: reserve
> resources claiming that you'll send everything so that others can't make
> use of the resources that are reserved to you. The best solution precisely
> is *not* to wait for anyone to finish, hence *not* to reserve valuable
> resources that are unusuable by others.
>
> Willy
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-18 1:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <02917697-4CE2-4BBE-BF47-31F58BC89025@hxcore.ol>
2021-04-16 23:09 ` PROBLEM: DoS Attack on Fragment Cache Keyu Man
2021-04-17 0:31 ` David Ahern
2021-04-17 4:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2021-04-17 7:27 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <CAMqUL6bkp2Dy3AMFZeNLjE1f-sAwnuBWpXH_FSYTSh8=Ac3RKg@mail.gmail.com>
2021-04-17 7:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-18 1:30 ` Matt Corallo [this message]
2021-04-18 1:38 ` Keyu Man
2021-04-18 2:26 ` Matt Corallo
2021-04-18 4:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-18 14:31 ` Matt Corallo
2021-04-19 9:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2021-04-19 17:20 ` Matt Corallo
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