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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Shutemov, Kirill" <kirill.shutemov@intel.com>,
	Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: AMD Memory encryption vs. kexec
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:54:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cbc9c527-17e5-4a63-80fe-85451394cc7c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26d91827-8308-42e2-969e-993c82623bb0@intel.com>

On 11/29/23 14:01, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/28/23 06:03, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> ...
>>> By my reading, the CC_ATTR_HOST_MEM_ENCRYPT is basically a check for
>>> whether the current kernel has enabled SME but not SEV while the
>>> stop_this_cpu() site is driven purely by whether the hardware *supports*
>>> SME.
>>>
>>> The whole supposed reason stop_this_cpu() checks CPUID directly is that
>>> the current kernel SME/SEV enabling might not match the _next_ kernel's
>>> enabling choices.
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>> So, why is a _current_ kernel check OK for relocate_kernel(), but not OK
>>> for stop_this_cpu()?
>>
>> The relocate_kernel() check provides an indication of whether SME is
>> actually active. The kexec kernel is placed in unencrypted memory to
>> match how the system was booted - where the kernel is loaded into
>> unencrypted memory and then encrypted in-place if SME is desired
>> (mem_encrypt=on). Since the kexec kernel will be unencrypted, the
>> cc_platform_has() call is used to indicate whether to perform a wbinvd
>> to remove encrypted cache line entries. If SME is not active, then there
>> is no need to flush caches prior to booting the kexec kernel.
> 
> Ahh, so that wbinvd is truly specific to kexec.  It protects the
> always-unencrypted kexec area from being zapped by encrypted lines.  It
> isn't necessary when the old kexec kernel is mem_encrypt=off because the
> unencrypted old kernel matches the always unencrypted kexec area.
> 
> What I was worried about was the _larger_ case.  Not the kexec area, the
> *rest* of memory.  But I think that's irrelevant because there's yet
> *another* wbinvd in __enc_copy() that is will flush the rest of memory
> when going from mem_encrypt=off=>on.

Correct (I was actually sitting here before I got your email wondering if 
I should reply to my previous email with just that info).

> 
> I'd like to propose a simplification.  Let's add a
> CC_ATTR_HOST_MEM_INCOHERENT.  That bit gets set on all hardware that
> needs WBVINDs at kexec.  On AMD, it can use the stop_this_cpu() logic.
> This will cause an additional wbinvd in case where a mem_encrypt=off
> kernel is kexec'ing.
> 
> We can also set it on any TDX-enabled Intel hardware.
> 
> That leads to very simple logic at kexec:
> 
> 	Could the old kernel leave incoherent caches
> 	around?  If so, do WBINVD.
> 
> That logic gets applied to all CPUs, both boot and secondary.  It
> applies to all the SME-only systems (currently CC_ATTR_HOST_MEM_ENCRYPT)
> and also all TDX systems.  It would not depend on the current kernel's
> SME enabling and it would allow both kexec-related sites to share the
> same logic.
> 
> I don't really like the idea of yet another CC_ATTR_HOST_MEM_INCOHERENT
> bit, but I do think it's better than adding some TDX-specific paths.

I'm good with that change. I think an additional WBINVD during kexec is 
acceptable to make everything less complicated in the code.

Thanks,
Tom



      reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-28  0:00 AMD Memory encryption vs. kexec Dave Hansen
2023-11-28 14:03 ` Tom Lendacky
2023-11-29 20:01   ` Dave Hansen
2023-11-29 20:54     ` Tom Lendacky [this message]

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