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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Mats Karrman <mats.dev.list@gmail.com>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:41:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce0350a4-f7d9-3fdd-88ee-8cb827ecee2a@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68817c44-d880-581a-e9f5-12845b9215eb@gmail.com>

On 03/10/2017 02:22 PM, Mats Karrman wrote:
> On 2017-03-08 14:58, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:30:54PM +0100, Mats Karrman wrote:
>>> If I read Heikki's original suggestion I understand it like the DP driver would be
>>> responsible for AM specific USB PD/VDM communication. But wouldn't that lead
>>> to a lot of code duplication since the AM protocol is the same for all drivers of
>>> a kind?
>> No that's not what I mean. I'm still mixing your PD controller with
>> something else above, sorry about that. Your PD controller driver
>> should not ideally even need to be aware of Type-C connector, right?
>> It definitely does not need to do any USB PD communication.
>
> Right.
>
>> I would imagine you have on top of the DP controller, a mux (which
>> could be a DP/USB3 PHY like on Rockchip RK3399, discrete mux like
>> Pericom PI3USB30532, or something else), and a USB Type-C PHY or USB
>> PD controller. The bus would be tying the mux to the Type-C port (PHY
>> or PD controller) and its partner (note that it does not tie the mux
>> to the DP controller). Please correct me if I'm wrong about your
>> hardware.
>
> No, you're correct, a discrete mux and a fusb302.
>
>> Assuming that is how your board roughly looks like, the driver for the
>> mux would be the driver for the DP altmode devices. That driver would
>> be the one converting things like the Attention messages notifying
>> about HPD into toggling of GPIOs, or what ever is needed on your
>> board, etc.
>
> OK.
>
>> The actual PD communication with VDMs should be considered as just the
>> protocol, so we probable should have "protocol drivers". For example
>> DP alternate mode VDMs and communication will always be the same
>> despite of the hardware. The DP alternate mode "protocol driver" would
>> then be tied to the alternate mode device for the partner, and that
>> driver could have its own hooks for what ever is needed, like HPD
>> signal handling, configuration changes, whatever. In any case,
>> hopefully making things easy and straightforward for the "mux driver",
>> _so that it does not need to care about the actual PD communication_.
>
> I'm digesting your and Guenter's replies and patches.
> I will try getting something up and running too soon and hopefully the foggy parts will
> dissolve. As for now I find it a lot easier to grok Guenter's drivers than to see the
> advantages and/or disadvantages of an altmode bus :-)
>
> @Guenter: There _is_ interest for your fusb302 driver, thank you
>

Ok, I'll see what I need to do to publish it.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-10 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-21 14:24 [PATCH v17 0/3] USB Type-C Connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 1/3] lib/string: add sysfs_match_string helper Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-02 15:22   ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-03  3:13     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03  7:29       ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-03  9:48         ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2017-03-03 12:59         ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-03 14:49           ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03 19:27           ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-06  9:37             ` Oliver Neukum
2017-03-06 13:14             ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-07 22:30               ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-08  1:38                 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-08 23:09                   ` USB Type-C Port Manager API concern Mats Karrman
2017-04-09 15:16                     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-09 21:05                       ` Mats Karrman
2017-04-14  2:57                         ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-14  8:30                           ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-08 13:58                 ` [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-10 22:22                   ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-10 23:41                     ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2017-04-18 18:52                       ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 11:23                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-19 14:45                           ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 15:14                             ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-19 17:22                               ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 19:29                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-20 12:24                                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-20 19:46                                   ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-21 12:12                                     ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-21 13:14                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-21 14:27                                     ` Rajaram R
2017-04-21 16:43                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-22  9:23                                         ` Rajaram R
2017-04-24 17:50                                           ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-25  8:26                                             ` Rajaram R
2017-04-25 14:10                                               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-27  6:20                                                 ` Rajaram R
2017-04-27 18:10                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-28 10:52                                                     ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-20 11:55                             ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-03 14:41         ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03  3:35   ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03  4:29     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03  4:52       ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 14:36         ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-06  1:24           ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 14:31     ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-06  1:15       ` Peter Chen
2017-03-06 13:16         ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-07  1:36           ` Peter Chen
2017-03-07  8:57             ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-08  1:53               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-08  6:50                 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-08 14:44                   ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-09  2:00                     ` Peter Chen
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 3/3] usb: typec: add driver for Intel Whiskey Cove PMIC USB Type-C PHY Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 15:42 ` [PATCH v17 0/3] USB Type-C Connector class Felipe Balbi
2017-03-21 11:14   ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-21 10:23 ` Greg KH
2017-03-21 10:37   ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-22 21:15     ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-23  8:16       ` Heikki Krogerus

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