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* [PATCH v2 0/2] Improve the estimations in Intelligent Power Allocation
@ 2020-10-08 17:04 Lukasz Luba
  2020-10-08 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation Lukasz Luba
  2020-10-08 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called Lukasz Luba
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lukasz Luba @ 2020-10-08 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, linux-pm
  Cc: daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann, lukasz.luba, ionela.voinescu

Hi all,

The Intelligent Power Allocation (IPA) estimates the needed coefficients for
internal algorithm. It can also estimate the sustainable power value when the
DT has not provided one. Fix the 'k_i' coefficient which might be to big
related to the other values, when the sustainable power is in an abstract
scale. Do the estimation only once and avoid expensive calculation every time
the IPA is called.

The patch set should apply on top of patches adding upper and lower bound for
power actors [1].

Regards,
Lukasz Luba

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20201007122256.28080-1-lukasz.luba@arm.com/

Lukasz Luba (2):
  thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation
  thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called

 drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 62 +++++++++++++--------------
 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)

-- 
2.17.1


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* [PATCH v2 1/2] thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation
  2020-10-08 17:04 [PATCH v2 0/2] Improve the estimations in Intelligent Power Allocation Lukasz Luba
@ 2020-10-08 17:04 ` Lukasz Luba
  2020-10-09 13:05   ` Ionela Voinescu
  2020-10-08 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called Lukasz Luba
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lukasz Luba @ 2020-10-08 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, linux-pm
  Cc: daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann, lukasz.luba, ionela.voinescu

Intelligent Power Allocation (IPA) is built around the PID controller
concept. The initialization code tries to setup the environment based on
the information available in DT or estimate the value based on minimum
power reported by each of the cooling device. The estimation will have an
impact on the PID controller behaviour via the related 'k_po', 'k_pu',
'k_i' coefficients and also on the power budget calculation.

This change prevents the situation when 'k_i' is relatively big compared
to 'k_po' and 'k_pu' values. This might happen when the estimation for
'sustainable_power' returned small value, thus 'k_po' and 'k_pu' are
small.

Signed-off-by: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
---
 drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 8 ++++++--
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
index e566806f1550..aa35aa6c561c 100644
--- a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
+++ b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
@@ -132,6 +132,7 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
 	int ret;
 	int switch_on_temp;
 	u32 temperature_threshold;
+	s32 k_i;
 
 	ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip_switch_on, &switch_on_temp);
 	if (ret)
@@ -157,8 +158,11 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
 		tz->tzp->k_pu = int_to_frac(2 * sustainable_power) /
 			temperature_threshold;
 
-	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force)
-		tz->tzp->k_i = int_to_frac(10) / 1000;
+	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force) {
+		k_i = tz->tzp->k_pu / 10;
+		tz->tzp->k_i = k_i > 0 ? k_i : 1;
+	}
+
 	/*
 	 * The default for k_d and integral_cutoff is 0, so we can
 	 * leave them as they are.
-- 
2.17.1


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* [PATCH v2 2/2] thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called
  2020-10-08 17:04 [PATCH v2 0/2] Improve the estimations in Intelligent Power Allocation Lukasz Luba
  2020-10-08 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation Lukasz Luba
@ 2020-10-08 17:04 ` Lukasz Luba
  2020-10-09 11:19   ` Ionela Voinescu
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lukasz Luba @ 2020-10-08 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, linux-pm
  Cc: daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann, lukasz.luba, ionela.voinescu

The sustainable power value might come from the Device Tree or can be
estimated in run time. There is no need to estimate every time when the
governor is called and temperature is high. Instead, store the estimated
value and make it available via standard sysfs interface so it can be
checked from the user-space. Re-invoke the estimation only in case the
sustainable power was set to 0. Apart from that the PID coefficients
are not going to be force updated thus can better handle sysfs settings.

Signed-off-by: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
---
 drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 56 +++++++++++++--------------
 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
index aa35aa6c561c..1ad8d9c2685f 100644
--- a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
+++ b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
@@ -96,6 +96,9 @@ static u32 estimate_sustainable_power(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
 		if (instance->trip != params->trip_max_desired_temperature)
 			continue;
 
+		if (!cdev_is_power_actor(cdev))
+			continue;
+
 		if (cdev->ops->state2power(cdev, tz, instance->upper,
 					   &min_power))
 			continue;
@@ -109,31 +112,28 @@ static u32 estimate_sustainable_power(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
 /**
  * estimate_pid_constants() - Estimate the constants for the PID controller
  * @tz:		thermal zone for which to estimate the constants
- * @sustainable_power:	sustainable power for the thermal zone
  * @trip_switch_on:	trip point number for the switch on temperature
  * @control_temp:	target temperature for the power allocator governor
- * @force:	whether to force the update of the constants
  *
  * This function is used to update the estimation of the PID
  * controller constants in struct thermal_zone_parameters.
- * Sustainable power is provided in case it was estimated.  The
- * estimated sustainable_power should not be stored in the
- * thermal_zone_parameters so it has to be passed explicitly to this
- * function.
- *
- * If @force is not set, the values in the thermal zone's parameters
- * are preserved if they are not zero.  If @force is set, the values
- * in thermal zone's parameters are overwritten.
+ * Sustainable power is going to be estimated in case it is 0.
  */
 static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
-				   u32 sustainable_power, int trip_switch_on,
-				   int control_temp, bool force)
+				   int trip_switch_on, int control_temp)
 {
-	int ret;
-	int switch_on_temp;
+	u32 sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
 	u32 temperature_threshold;
+	int switch_on_temp;
+	int ret;
 	s32 k_i;
 
+	if (!sustainable_power) {
+		sustainable_power = estimate_sustainable_power(tz);
+		/* Make the estimation available in sysfs */
+		tz->tzp->sustainable_power = sustainable_power;
+	}
+
 	ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip_switch_on, &switch_on_temp);
 	if (ret)
 		switch_on_temp = 0;
@@ -150,15 +150,15 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
 	if (!temperature_threshold)
 		return;
 
-	if (!tz->tzp->k_po || force)
+	if (!tz->tzp->k_po)
 		tz->tzp->k_po = int_to_frac(sustainable_power) /
 			temperature_threshold;
 
-	if (!tz->tzp->k_pu || force)
+	if (!tz->tzp->k_pu)
 		tz->tzp->k_pu = int_to_frac(2 * sustainable_power) /
 			temperature_threshold;
 
-	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force) {
+	if (!tz->tzp->k_i) {
 		k_i = tz->tzp->k_pu / 10;
 		tz->tzp->k_i = k_i > 0 ? k_i : 1;
 	}
@@ -198,14 +198,11 @@ static u32 pid_controller(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
 
 	max_power_frac = int_to_frac(max_allocatable_power);
 
-	if (tz->tzp->sustainable_power) {
-		sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
-	} else {
-		sustainable_power = estimate_sustainable_power(tz);
-		estimate_pid_constants(tz, sustainable_power,
-				       params->trip_switch_on, control_temp,
-				       true);
-	}
+	if (!tz->tzp->sustainable_power)
+		estimate_pid_constants(tz, params->trip_switch_on,
+				       control_temp);
+
+	sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
 
 	err = control_temp - tz->temperature;
 	err = int_to_frac(err);
@@ -603,20 +600,19 @@ static int power_allocator_bind(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
 
 	get_governor_trips(tz, params);
 
+	tz->governor_data = params;
+
 	if (tz->trips > 0) {
 		ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz,
 					params->trip_max_desired_temperature,
 					&control_temp);
 		if (!ret)
-			estimate_pid_constants(tz, tz->tzp->sustainable_power,
-					       params->trip_switch_on,
-					       control_temp, false);
+			estimate_pid_constants(tz, params->trip_switch_on,
+					       control_temp);
 	}
 
 	reset_pid_controller(params);
 
-	tz->governor_data = params;
-
 	return 0;
 
 free_params:
-- 
2.17.1


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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called
  2020-10-08 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called Lukasz Luba
@ 2020-10-09 11:19   ` Ionela Voinescu
  2020-10-09 11:57     ` Lukasz Luba
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ionela Voinescu @ 2020-10-09 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lukasz Luba
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann

Hi Lukasz,

On Thursday 08 Oct 2020 at 18:04:26 (+0100), Lukasz Luba wrote:
> The sustainable power value might come from the Device Tree or can be
> estimated in run time. There is no need to estimate every time when the
> governor is called and temperature is high. Instead, store the estimated
> value and make it available via standard sysfs interface so it can be
> checked from the user-space. Re-invoke the estimation only in case the
> sustainable power was set to 0. Apart from that the PID coefficients
> are not going to be force updated thus can better handle sysfs settings.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
> ---
>  drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 56 +++++++++++++--------------
>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
> index aa35aa6c561c..1ad8d9c2685f 100644
> --- a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
> +++ b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
> @@ -96,6 +96,9 @@ static u32 estimate_sustainable_power(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
>  		if (instance->trip != params->trip_max_desired_temperature)
>  			continue;
>  
> +		if (!cdev_is_power_actor(cdev))
> +			continue;
> +
>  		if (cdev->ops->state2power(cdev, tz, instance->upper,
>  					   &min_power))
>  			continue;
> @@ -109,31 +112,28 @@ static u32 estimate_sustainable_power(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
>  /**
>   * estimate_pid_constants() - Estimate the constants for the PID controller
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      estimate_tzp_constants()?

When called in pid_controller() it feels strange that we check for
sustainable_power, then we call estimate_pid_constants() and then we
magically have an non-zero sustainable_power. Therefore, it would be
good to change the name to indicate it's not only the PID constants that
are estimated.

>   * @tz:		thermal zone for which to estimate the constants
> - * @sustainable_power:	sustainable power for the thermal zone
>   * @trip_switch_on:	trip point number for the switch on temperature
>   * @control_temp:	target temperature for the power allocator governor
> - * @force:	whether to force the update of the constants
>   *
>   * This function is used to update the estimation of the PID
>   * controller constants in struct thermal_zone_parameters.

How about replacing this with: 

"""
 * This function is used to estimate the sustainable power and PID controller
 * constants in struct thermal_zone_parameters. These estimations will then be
 * available in sysfs.
"""

> - * Sustainable power is provided in case it was estimated.  The
> - * estimated sustainable_power should not be stored in the
> - * thermal_zone_parameters so it has to be passed explicitly to this
> - * function.
> - *
> - * If @force is not set, the values in the thermal zone's parameters
> - * are preserved if they are not zero.  If @force is set, the values
> - * in thermal zone's parameters are overwritten.
> + * Sustainable power is going to be estimated in case it is 0.
>   */
>  static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
> -				   u32 sustainable_power, int trip_switch_on,
> -				   int control_temp, bool force)
> +				   int trip_switch_on, int control_temp)
>  {
> -	int ret;
> -	int switch_on_temp;
> +	u32 sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
>  	u32 temperature_threshold;
> +	int switch_on_temp;
> +	int ret;
>  	s32 k_i;
>  
> +	if (!sustainable_power) {
> +		sustainable_power = estimate_sustainable_power(tz);
> +		/* Make the estimation available in sysfs */

I would remove this comment from here. The reason is that this is not a
special case. This will happen for all the tzp parameters set below.
That's why I suggested adding this to the overall function comment above.

> +		tz->tzp->sustainable_power = sustainable_power;
> +	}
> +
>  	ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip_switch_on, &switch_on_temp);
>  	if (ret)
>  		switch_on_temp = 0;
> @@ -150,15 +150,15 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>  	if (!temperature_threshold)
>  		return;
>  
> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_po || force)
> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_po)
>  		tz->tzp->k_po = int_to_frac(sustainable_power) /
>  			temperature_threshold;
>  
> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_pu || force)
> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_pu)
>  		tz->tzp->k_pu = int_to_frac(2 * sustainable_power) /
>  			temperature_threshold;
>  
> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force) {
> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_i) {
>  		k_i = tz->tzp->k_pu / 10;
>  		tz->tzp->k_i = k_i > 0 ? k_i : 1;
>  	}

(Possibly judgement call)

I agree we don't need the force argument to this function, but I would
still keep an internal force variable (default false) to be set to true
when we estimate and set the sustainable power.

The reason for this is that there is no guarantee that when
sustainable_power is found to be 0 and estimated, we'll then find all of
the PID constants 0 as well in order to set them to a sane default.
Basically my worry is that we'll end up with a combination of PID
constants and sustainable power (some estimated and some not) that is not
quite sane.

But I understand a potential usecase in which a user might want to set
it's own PID constants while wanting an estimated sustainable_power.
But for this do you think it might be worth just having a pr_info
message saying that "Sustainable power is 0; will estimate sustainable
power and PID constants."? For this the user would only have to know
that they need to set the sustainable_power to 0 first and then
populate its own PID constants if they want to.

> @@ -198,14 +198,11 @@ static u32 pid_controller(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>  
>  	max_power_frac = int_to_frac(max_allocatable_power);
>  
> -	if (tz->tzp->sustainable_power) {
> -		sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
> -	} else {
> -		sustainable_power = estimate_sustainable_power(tz);
> -		estimate_pid_constants(tz, sustainable_power,
> -				       params->trip_switch_on, control_temp,
> -				       true);
> -	}
> +	if (!tz->tzp->sustainable_power)
> +		estimate_pid_constants(tz, params->trip_switch_on,
> +				       control_temp);
> +
> +	sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
>  

(Nit)

This is only used once below in:
power_range = sustainable_power + frac_to_int(power_range);

I think we can use tz->tzp->sustainable_power directly there and
completely remove sustainable_power.

Thank you,
Ionela.

>  	err = control_temp - tz->temperature;
>  	err = int_to_frac(err);
> @@ -603,20 +600,19 @@ static int power_allocator_bind(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
>  
>  	get_governor_trips(tz, params);
>  
> +	tz->governor_data = params;
> +
>  	if (tz->trips > 0) {
>  		ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz,
>  					params->trip_max_desired_temperature,
>  					&control_temp);
>  		if (!ret)
> -			estimate_pid_constants(tz, tz->tzp->sustainable_power,
> -					       params->trip_switch_on,
> -					       control_temp, false);
> +			estimate_pid_constants(tz, params->trip_switch_on,
> +					       control_temp);
>  	}
>  
>  	reset_pid_controller(params);
>  
> -	tz->governor_data = params;
> -
>  	return 0;
>  
>  free_params:
> -- 
> 2.17.1
> 

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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] thermal: power allocator: change how estimation code is called
  2020-10-09 11:19   ` Ionela Voinescu
@ 2020-10-09 11:57     ` Lukasz Luba
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lukasz Luba @ 2020-10-09 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ionela Voinescu
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann

Hi Ionela,

On 10/9/20 12:19 PM, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> Hi Lukasz,
> 
> On Thursday 08 Oct 2020 at 18:04:26 (+0100), Lukasz Luba wrote:
>> The sustainable power value might come from the Device Tree or can be
>> estimated in run time. There is no need to estimate every time when the
>> governor is called and temperature is high. Instead, store the estimated
>> value and make it available via standard sysfs interface so it can be
>> checked from the user-space. Re-invoke the estimation only in case the
>> sustainable power was set to 0. Apart from that the PID coefficients
>> are not going to be force updated thus can better handle sysfs settings.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 56 +++++++++++++--------------
>>   1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
>> index aa35aa6c561c..1ad8d9c2685f 100644
>> --- a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
>> +++ b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
>> @@ -96,6 +96,9 @@ static u32 estimate_sustainable_power(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
>>   		if (instance->trip != params->trip_max_desired_temperature)
>>   			continue;
>>   
>> +		if (!cdev_is_power_actor(cdev))
>> +			continue;
>> +
>>   		if (cdev->ops->state2power(cdev, tz, instance->upper,
>>   					   &min_power))
>>   			continue;
>> @@ -109,31 +112,28 @@ static u32 estimate_sustainable_power(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
>>   /**
>>    * estimate_pid_constants() - Estimate the constants for the PID controller
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>        estimate_tzp_constants()?
> 
> When called in pid_controller() it feels strange that we check for
> sustainable_power, then we call estimate_pid_constants() and then we
> magically have an non-zero sustainable_power. Therefore, it would be
> good to change the name to indicate it's not only the PID constants that
> are estimated.

I agree, I will rename it.

> 
>>    * @tz:		thermal zone for which to estimate the constants
>> - * @sustainable_power:	sustainable power for the thermal zone
>>    * @trip_switch_on:	trip point number for the switch on temperature
>>    * @control_temp:	target temperature for the power allocator governor
>> - * @force:	whether to force the update of the constants
>>    *
>>    * This function is used to update the estimation of the PID
>>    * controller constants in struct thermal_zone_parameters.
> 
> How about replacing this with:
> 
> """
>   * This function is used to estimate the sustainable power and PID controller
>   * constants in struct thermal_zone_parameters. These estimations will then be
>   * available in sysfs.
> """

Yes, that change is required since the function name will also change.

> 
>> - * Sustainable power is provided in case it was estimated.  The
>> - * estimated sustainable_power should not be stored in the
>> - * thermal_zone_parameters so it has to be passed explicitly to this
>> - * function.
>> - *
>> - * If @force is not set, the values in the thermal zone's parameters
>> - * are preserved if they are not zero.  If @force is set, the values
>> - * in thermal zone's parameters are overwritten.
>> + * Sustainable power is going to be estimated in case it is 0.
>>    */
>>   static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>> -				   u32 sustainable_power, int trip_switch_on,
>> -				   int control_temp, bool force)
>> +				   int trip_switch_on, int control_temp)
>>   {
>> -	int ret;
>> -	int switch_on_temp;
>> +	u32 sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
>>   	u32 temperature_threshold;
>> +	int switch_on_temp;
>> +	int ret;
>>   	s32 k_i;
>>   
>> +	if (!sustainable_power) {
>> +		sustainable_power = estimate_sustainable_power(tz);
>> +		/* Make the estimation available in sysfs */
> 
> I would remove this comment from here. The reason is that this is not a
> special case. This will happen for all the tzp parameters set below.
> That's why I suggested adding this to the overall function comment above.

Yes, function comment will handle this better.

> 
>> +		tz->tzp->sustainable_power = sustainable_power;
>> +	}
>> +
>>   	ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip_switch_on, &switch_on_temp);
>>   	if (ret)
>>   		switch_on_temp = 0;
>> @@ -150,15 +150,15 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>>   	if (!temperature_threshold)
>>   		return;
>>   
>> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_po || force)
>> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_po)
>>   		tz->tzp->k_po = int_to_frac(sustainable_power) /
>>   			temperature_threshold;
>>   
>> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_pu || force)
>> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_pu)
>>   		tz->tzp->k_pu = int_to_frac(2 * sustainable_power) /
>>   			temperature_threshold;
>>   
>> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force) {
>> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_i) {
>>   		k_i = tz->tzp->k_pu / 10;
>>   		tz->tzp->k_i = k_i > 0 ? k_i : 1;
>>   	}
> 
> (Possibly judgement call)
> 
> I agree we don't need the force argument to this function, but I would
> still keep an internal force variable (default false) to be set to true
> when we estimate and set the sustainable power.

Yes, make sense, I will set locally.

> 
> The reason for this is that there is no guarantee that when
> sustainable_power is found to be 0 and estimated, we'll then find all of
> the PID constants 0 as well in order to set them to a sane default.
> Basically my worry is that we'll end up with a combination of PID
> constants and sustainable power (some estimated and some not) that is not
> quite sane.
> 
> But I understand a potential usecase in which a user might want to set
> it's own PID constants while wanting an estimated sustainable_power.
> But for this do you think it might be worth just having a pr_info
> message saying that "Sustainable power is 0; will estimate sustainable
> power and PID constants."? For this the user would only have to know
> that they need to set the sustainable_power to 0 first and then
> populate its own PID constants if they want to.

Yes, the print message is good in this case.

> 
>> @@ -198,14 +198,11 @@ static u32 pid_controller(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>>   
>>   	max_power_frac = int_to_frac(max_allocatable_power);
>>   
>> -	if (tz->tzp->sustainable_power) {
>> -		sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
>> -	} else {
>> -		sustainable_power = estimate_sustainable_power(tz);
>> -		estimate_pid_constants(tz, sustainable_power,
>> -				       params->trip_switch_on, control_temp,
>> -				       true);
>> -	}
>> +	if (!tz->tzp->sustainable_power)
>> +		estimate_pid_constants(tz, params->trip_switch_on,
>> +				       control_temp);
>> +
>> +	sustainable_power = tz->tzp->sustainable_power;
>>   
> 
> (Nit)
> 
> This is only used once below in:
> power_range = sustainable_power + frac_to_int(power_range);
> 
> I think we can use tz->tzp->sustainable_power directly there and
> completely remove sustainable_power.

I had the feeling that it won't fit in 80line there but it does.
I will change it.

Thank you for the review.

Lukasz

> 
> Thank you,
> Ionela.
> 
>>   	err = control_temp - tz->temperature;
>>   	err = int_to_frac(err);
>> @@ -603,20 +600,19 @@ static int power_allocator_bind(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
>>   
>>   	get_governor_trips(tz, params);
>>   
>> +	tz->governor_data = params;
>> +
>>   	if (tz->trips > 0) {
>>   		ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz,
>>   					params->trip_max_desired_temperature,
>>   					&control_temp);
>>   		if (!ret)
>> -			estimate_pid_constants(tz, tz->tzp->sustainable_power,
>> -					       params->trip_switch_on,
>> -					       control_temp, false);
>> +			estimate_pid_constants(tz, params->trip_switch_on,
>> +					       control_temp);
>>   	}
>>   
>>   	reset_pid_controller(params);
>>   
>> -	tz->governor_data = params;
>> -
>>   	return 0;
>>   
>>   free_params:
>> -- 
>> 2.17.1
>>

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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation
  2020-10-08 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation Lukasz Luba
@ 2020-10-09 13:05   ` Ionela Voinescu
  2020-10-09 13:31     ` Lukasz Luba
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ionela Voinescu @ 2020-10-09 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lukasz Luba
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann

On Thursday 08 Oct 2020 at 18:04:25 (+0100), Lukasz Luba wrote:
> Intelligent Power Allocation (IPA) is built around the PID controller
> concept. The initialization code tries to setup the environment based on
> the information available in DT or estimate the value based on minimum
> power reported by each of the cooling device. The estimation will have an
> impact on the PID controller behaviour via the related 'k_po', 'k_pu',
> 'k_i' coefficients and also on the power budget calculation.
> 
> This change prevents the situation when 'k_i' is relatively big compared
> to 'k_po' and 'k_pu' values. This might happen when the estimation for
> 'sustainable_power' returned small value, thus 'k_po' and 'k_pu' are
> small.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
> ---
>  drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 8 ++++++--
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
> index e566806f1550..aa35aa6c561c 100644
> --- a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
> +++ b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
> @@ -132,6 +132,7 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>  	int ret;
>  	int switch_on_temp;
>  	u32 temperature_threshold;
> +	s32 k_i;
>  
>  	ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip_switch_on, &switch_on_temp);
>  	if (ret)
> @@ -157,8 +158,11 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>  		tz->tzp->k_pu = int_to_frac(2 * sustainable_power) /
>  			temperature_threshold;
>  
> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force)
> -		tz->tzp->k_i = int_to_frac(10) / 1000;
> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force) {
> +		k_i = tz->tzp->k_pu / 10;
> +		tz->tzp->k_i = k_i > 0 ? k_i : 1;
> +	}

I spent some time to understand how smaller or bigger values here impact
the stability of the output and its closeness to the control temperature
so I could give you and informed review :).

I did observed that if the k_i value has the same order of magnitude as
k_p, the output oscillates more, so I do believe this is a good change
to have.

What I also observed is that a small k_d value could be very beneficial
in quicker stabilising the oscillation and saw that it's recommended to
have for temperature, or in general for systems with measurement lag.

It's probably worth experimenting with some real systems first, but I
wonder if setting k_d to 1 as well is a good default. The risk is that
we will end up too conservative and not take advantage of some power
budget that's actually still left on the table. In any case, this is a
story for another time :).

For these changes:

Reviewed-by: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>

Regards,
Ionela.

> +
>  	/*
>  	 * The default for k_d and integral_cutoff is 0, so we can
>  	 * leave them as they are.
> -- 
> 2.17.1
> 




^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] thermal: power allocator: change the 'k_i' coefficient estimation
  2020-10-09 13:05   ` Ionela Voinescu
@ 2020-10-09 13:31     ` Lukasz Luba
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lukasz Luba @ 2020-10-09 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ionela Voinescu
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, daniel.lezcano, amitk, Dietmar.Eggemann



On 10/9/20 2:05 PM, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> On Thursday 08 Oct 2020 at 18:04:25 (+0100), Lukasz Luba wrote:
>> Intelligent Power Allocation (IPA) is built around the PID controller
>> concept. The initialization code tries to setup the environment based on
>> the information available in DT or estimate the value based on minimum
>> power reported by each of the cooling device. The estimation will have an
>> impact on the PID controller behaviour via the related 'k_po', 'k_pu',
>> 'k_i' coefficients and also on the power budget calculation.
>>
>> This change prevents the situation when 'k_i' is relatively big compared
>> to 'k_po' and 'k_pu' values. This might happen when the estimation for
>> 'sustainable_power' returned small value, thus 'k_po' and 'k_pu' are
>> small.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c | 8 ++++++--
>>   1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
>> index e566806f1550..aa35aa6c561c 100644
>> --- a/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
>> +++ b/drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c
>> @@ -132,6 +132,7 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>>   	int ret;
>>   	int switch_on_temp;
>>   	u32 temperature_threshold;
>> +	s32 k_i;
>>   
>>   	ret = tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip_switch_on, &switch_on_temp);
>>   	if (ret)
>> @@ -157,8 +158,11 @@ static void estimate_pid_constants(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>>   		tz->tzp->k_pu = int_to_frac(2 * sustainable_power) /
>>   			temperature_threshold;
>>   
>> -	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force)
>> -		tz->tzp->k_i = int_to_frac(10) / 1000;
>> +	if (!tz->tzp->k_i || force) {
>> +		k_i = tz->tzp->k_pu / 10;
>> +		tz->tzp->k_i = k_i > 0 ? k_i : 1;
>> +	}
> 
> I spent some time to understand how smaller or bigger values here impact
> the stability of the output and its closeness to the control temperature
> so I could give you and informed review :).
> 
> I did observed that if the k_i value has the same order of magnitude as
> k_p, the output oscillates more, so I do believe this is a good change
> to have.
> 
> What I also observed is that a small k_d value could be very beneficial
> in quicker stabilising the oscillation and saw that it's recommended to
> have for temperature, or in general for systems with measurement lag.
> 
> It's probably worth experimenting with some real systems first, but I
> wonder if setting k_d to 1 as well is a good default. The risk is that
> we will end up too conservative and not take advantage of some power
> budget that's actually still left on the table. In any case, this is a
> story for another time :).
> 
> For these changes:
> 
> Reviewed-by: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>

Thank you for the review. I will add it to the v3, which I am going to
send soon.

Regards,
Lukasz

> 
> Regards,
> Ionela.
> 
>> +
>>   	/*
>>   	 * The default for k_d and integral_cutoff is 0, so we can
>>   	 * leave them as they are.
>> -- 
>> 2.17.1
>>
> 
> 
> 

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