From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991F4C7618B for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230107AbjCNVY0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:24:26 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:37714 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229733AbjCNVYU (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:24:20 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95909515D8 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2883B619BF for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16393C433D2; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:24:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1678829042; bh=YqViZD41gexkA1fXl8jJ1gtu6PrOo8wk/cq3HkC/8tA=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=RKLEvu4ThAfJ0unmpd/t1SefIVvTTYbe8Cs2R5GKuErwrCJo7hQmtgoV6Zmp46CdI z6a3imXZeAt9lUefOL8vdsqFZIewsneMK516YvlfutIbEcsR3T+ivjr88OzGyj71VR DqtFmQTNXXf666PbZdE86cCGPjHwbDbl4OnDiA66PSFYLIki8c+wu9UECuUit0IpKa Lff0b5EWMOsDE5KZuVMa1hKwCF+Z/fmRWCAv+zK9ICvEb4GXnuqcK2BNx3LF9Tjaj1 0d9XbStBvb8MunU7dIKb4Ho1VHq9lH+EdoT2GpSIJ3RrTIVlbxBrUT5DlIQaKOexp9 AlPoonaAxs/9w== Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C1D27C0054; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap48 ([10.202.2.98]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:24:01 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvddviedgudehvdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvvefutgesthdtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdet nhguhicunfhuthhomhhirhhskhhifdcuoehluhhtoheskhgvrhhnvghlrdhorhhgqeenuc ggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhhffhjefgteeiudfgledvveejvdeugfehkeevudejgffhffdt veffffelhedtvdenucffohhmrghinhepkhgvrhhnvghlrdhorhhgpdhgihhthhhusgdrtg homhdpmhhitghrohhsohhfthdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgr rhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegrnhguhidomhgvshhmthhprghuthhhphgvrhhsohhnrg hlihhthidqudduiedukeehieefvddqvdeifeduieeitdekqdhluhhtoheppehkvghrnhgv lhdrohhrgheslhhinhhugidrlhhuthhordhush X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ieff94742:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2054F31A0063; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:24:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.9.0-alpha0-221-gec32977366-fm-20230306.001-gec329773 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:23:39 -0700 From: "Andy Lutomirski" To: "Evgeniy Baskov" , "Ard Biesheuvel" Cc: "Borislav Petkov" , "Dave Hansen" , "Ingo Molnar" , "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" , "Thomas Gleixner" , "Alexey Khoroshilov" , "Peter Jones" , "Gerd Hoffmann" , "Limonciello, Mario" , joeyli , lvc-project@linuxtesting.org, "the arch/x86 maintainers" , linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, "Linux Kernel Mailing List" , linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] x86_64: Improvements at compressed kernel stage Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, at 3:13 AM, Evgeniy Baskov wrote: > This patchset is aimed > * to improve UEFI compatibility of compressed kernel code for x86_64 > * to setup proper memory access attributes for code and rodata sections > * to implement W^X protection policy throughout the whole execution > of compressed kernel for EFISTUB code path. The overall code quality seems okay, but I have some questions as to what this is for. The early boot environment is not exposed to most sorts of attacks -- there's no userspace, there's no network, and there is not a whole lot of input that isn't implicitly completely trusted. What parts of this series are actually needed to get these fancy new bootloaders to boot Linux? And why? > > Kernel is made to be more compatible with PE image specification [3], > allowing it to be successfully loaded by stricter PE loader > implementations like the one from [2]. There is at least one > known implementation that uses that loader in production [4]. > There are also ongoing efforts to upstream these changes. Can you clarify > > Also the patchset adds EFI_MEMORY_ATTTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL, included into > EFI specification since version 2.10, as a better alternative to > using DXE services for memory protection attributes manipulation, > since it is defined by the UEFI specification itself and not UEFI PI > specification. This protocol is not widely available so the code > using DXE services is kept in place as a fallback in case specific > implementation does not support the new protocol. > One of EFI implementations that already support > EFI_MEMORY_ATTTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL is Microsoft Project Mu [5]. Maybe make this a separate series? > > Kernel image generation tool (tools/build.c) is refactored as a part > of changes that makes PE image more compatible. > > The patchset implements memory protection for compressed kernel > code while executing both inside EFI boot services and outside of > them. For EFISTUB code path W^X protection policy is maintained > throughout the whole execution of compressed kernel. The latter > is achieved by extracting the kernel directly from EFI environment > and jumping to it's head immediately after exiting EFI boot services. > As a side effect of this change one page table rebuild and a copy of > the kernel image is removed. I have no problem with this, but what's it needed for? > > Memory protection inside EFI environment is controlled by the > CONFIG_DXE_MEM_ATTRIBUTES option, although with these patches this > option also control the use EFI_MEMORY_ATTTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL and memory > protection attributes of PE sections and not only DXE services as the > name might suggest. > > [1] > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/893da11995f93a7ea8f7485d17bf356a@ispras.ru/ > [2] https://github.com/acidanthera/audk/tree/secure_pe Link is broken > [3] > https://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/5/9c5b2167-8017-4bae-9fde-d599bac8184a/pecoff_v83.docx I skimmed this very briefly, and I have no idea what I'm supposed to look at. This is the entire PE spec!