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From: John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, tycho@docker.com,
	serge@hallyn.com, sunyuqiong1988@gmail.com, david.safford@ge.com,
	mkayaalp@cs.binghamton.edu,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
	Yuqiong Sun <suny@us.ibm.com>,
	Mehmet Kayaalp <mkayaalp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] ima: extend clone() with IMA namespace support
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:09:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8c30d7d-c679-9323-7a25-d3148e9b96c6@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1523636702.3272.63.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 04/13/2018 09:25 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> [Cc'ing John Johansen]
> 
> On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 18:01 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> [...]
>> As such I expect the best way to create the ima namespace is by simply
>> writing to securityfs/imafs.  Possibly before the user namespace is
>> even unshared.  That would allow IMA to keep track of things from
>> before a container is created.
> 

I do think this is generally the right approach for LSMs when looking
forward to LSM stacking and more LSMs.


> My initial thought was to stage IMA namespacing with just IMA-audit
> first, followed by either IMA-measurement or IMA-appraisal.  This
> would allow us to get the basic IMA namespacing framework working and
> defer dealing with the securityfs related namespacing of the IMA
> policy and measurement list issues to later.
> 
> By tying IMA namespacing to a securityfs ima/unshare file, we would
> need to address the securityfs issues first.
> 

well it depends on what you want to do. It would be possible to have
a simple file (not a jump link) within securityfs that IMA could use
without having to deal with all the securityfs issues first. However it
does require that securityfs (not necessarily imafs) be visible within
the mount namespace of the task doing the setup.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-18 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-27 13:57 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] ima: namespacing IMA Stefan Berger
2018-03-27 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] ima: extend clone() with IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2018-03-27 23:01   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-28 11:10     ` Stefan Berger
2018-03-28 12:14       ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2018-03-28 12:44         ` Stefan Berger
2018-04-18 15:59       ` John Johansen
2018-04-13 16:25     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-18 16:09       ` John Johansen [this message]
2018-04-18 19:57         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-18 20:12           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-18 20:27             ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-18 21:32             ` John Johansen
2018-04-19 11:03               ` Stefan Berger
2018-04-19 15:35                 ` John Johansen
2018-04-26 21:18                   ` Stefan Berger
2018-04-27  0:49                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-27 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] ima: Add ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2018-03-27 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] ima: mamespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2018-03-29 17:44 [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] ima: extend clone() with IMA namespace support Dr. Greg Wettstein
2018-04-02 11:20 ` Stefan Berger
2018-04-03 15:04   ` Dr. Greg Wettstein

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