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From: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: <serge@hallyn.com>, <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	<agruenba@redhat.com>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	<viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, <avagin@openvz.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <luto@amacapital.net>,
	<gorcunov@openvz.org>, <mingo@kernel.org>,
	<keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pid_ns: Introduce ioctl to set vector of ns_last_pid's on ns hierarhy
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 20:33:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de392430-18b8-d296-b868-82fdedcd0c0e@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170502163324.GA25036@redhat.com>

On 02.05.2017 19:33, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> sorry for delay, vacation...
> 
> On 04/28, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
>>
>> On 27.04.2017 19:22, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, OK, I didn't notice the ns->child_reaper check in pidns_for_children_get().
>>>
>>> But note that it doesn't need tasklist_lock too.
>>
>> Hm, are there possible strange situations with memory ordering, when we see
>> ns->child_reaper of already died ns, which was placed in the same memory?
>> Do we have to use some memory barriers here?
> 
> Could you spell please? I don't understand your concerns...
> 
> I don't see how, say,
> 
> 	static struct ns_common *pidns_for_children_get(struct task_struct *task)
> 	{
> 		struct ns_common *ns = NULL;
> 		struct pid_namespace *pid_ns;
> 
> 		task_lock(task);
> 		if (task->nsproxy) {
> 			pid_ns = task->nsproxy->pid_ns_for_children;
> 			if (pid_ns->child_reaper) {
> 				ns = &pid_ns->ns;
> 				get_pid_ns(ns);
> 			}
> 		}
> 		task_unlock(task);
> 
> 		return ns;
> 	}
> 
> can be wrong. It also looks more clean to me.
> 
> ->child_reaper is not stable without tasklist, it can be dead/etc, but
> we do not care?

I mean the following. We had a pid_ns1 with a child_reaper set. Then
it became dead, and a new pid_ns2 were allocated in the same memory.

A task on another cpu opens the pid_for_children file, and because
of there is no memory ordering, it sees pid_ns1->child_reaper,
when it opens pid_ns2.

I forgot, what guarantees this situation is impossible? What guarantees,
the renewed content of pid_ns2 on another cpu is seen not later, than
we can't open it?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-02 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-17 17:34 [PATCH 0/2] nsfs: Introduce ioctl to set vector of ns_last_pid's on pid ns hierarhy Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] nsfs: Add namespace-specific ioctl (NS_SPECIFIC_IOC) Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] pid_ns: Introduce ioctl to set vector of ns_last_pid's on ns hierarhy Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-19 20:27   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-04-24 19:03   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2017-04-26 15:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-26 16:11     ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-26 16:33       ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-26 16:32         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-26 16:43           ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-26 17:01             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-27 16:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-27 16:17         ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-27 16:22           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-28  9:17             ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-05-02 16:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-05-02 17:22                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-02 17:33                 ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
2017-05-02 21:13                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-03 10:20                     ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-27 16:39           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-28  9:22             ` Kirill Tkhai
2017-04-27 16:16       ` Oleg Nesterov

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