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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>, James Smart <james.smart@broadcom.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Maximilian Heyne <mheyne@amazon.de>, Amit Shah <aams@amazon.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Adding per-controller timeout support to nvme
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 07:45:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df0c4a9cce5928fdc8ba3a1858e4c6611edb4474.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db034829-7140-1374-0132-7d27240b8b3b@grimberg.me>

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On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 13:58 -0700, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> > It isn't that the media is slow; the max timeout is based on the SLA
> > for certain classes of "fabric" outages. Linux copes *really* badly
> > with I/O errors, and if we can make the timeout last long enough to
> > cover the switch restart worst case, then users are a lot happier.
> 
> Well, what is usually done to handle fabric outages is having multiple
> paths to the storage device, not sure if that is applicable for you or
> not...

Yeah, that turns out to be impractical in this case.

> What do you mean by "Linux copes *really* badly with I/O errors"? What
> can be done better?

There's not a lot that can be done here in the short term. If file
systems get errors on certain I/O, then graceful recovery would be
complicated to achieve.

Better for the I/O timeout to be set higher than the known worst case
time for successful completion.

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      reply	other threads:[~2019-04-25  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-03 12:35 [PATCH v2 0/2] Adding per-controller timeout support to nvme Maximilian Heyne
2019-04-03 12:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] nvme: add per-controller io and admin timeouts Maximilian Heyne
2019-04-03 12:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] nvme: add sysfs controls for " Maximilian Heyne
2019-04-09 10:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Adding per-controller timeout support to nvme Sagi Grimberg
2019-04-24 20:07   ` Keith Busch
2019-04-24 20:30     ` David Woodhouse
2019-04-24 20:44       ` Keith Busch
2019-04-24 20:58       ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-04-25  5:45         ` David Woodhouse [this message]

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