From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: "Julien Desfossez" <jdesfossez@digitalocean.com>,
"Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
"Aubrey Li" <aubrey.intel@gmail.com>,
"Subhra Mazumdar" <subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com>,
"Vineeth Remanan Pillai" <vpillai@digitalocean.com>,
"Nishanth Aravamudan" <naravamudan@digitalocean.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Paul Turner" <pjt@google.com>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Linux List Kernel Mailing" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Greg Kerr" <kerrnel@google.com>, "Phil Auld" <pauld@redhat.com>,
"Valentin Schneider" <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
"Pawan Gupta" <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 10:03:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1c4a7ed-822e-93cb-ff1d-6a0842db115f@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190806032418.GA54717@aaronlu>
On 8/5/19 8:24 PM, Aaron Lu wrote:
> I've been thinking if we should consider core wide tenent fairness?
>
> Let's say there are 3 tasks on 2 threads' rq of the same core, 2 tasks
> (e.g. A1, A2) belong to tenent A and the 3rd B1 belong to another tenent
> B. Assume A1 and B1 are queued on the same thread and A2 on the other
> thread, when we decide priority for A1 and B1, shall we also consider
> A2's vruntime? i.e. shall we consider A1 and A2 as a whole since they
> belong to the same tenent? I tend to think we should make fairness per
> core per tenent, instead of per thread(cpu) per task(sched entity). What
> do you guys think?
>
> Implemention of the idea is a mess to me, as I feel I'm duplicating the
> existing per cpu per sched_entity enqueue/update vruntime/dequeue logic
> for the per core per tenent stuff.
I'm wondering if something simpler will work. It is easier to maintain fairness
between the CPU threads. A simple scheme may be if the force idle deficit
on a CPU thread exceeds a threshold compared to its sibling, we will
bias in choosing the task on the suppressed CPU thread.
The fairness among the tenents per run queue is balanced out by cfq fairness,
so things should be fair if we maintain fairness in CPU utilization between
the two CPU threads.
Tim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-06 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-29 20:36 [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3 Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/16] stop_machine: Fix stop_cpus_in_progress ordering Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:54 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 16:19 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/16] " mark gross
2019-08-26 16:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/16] sched: Fix kerneldoc comment for ia64_set_curr_task Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:55 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/16] " mark gross
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/16] sched: Wrap rq::lock access Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/16] sched/{rt,deadline}: Fix set_next_task vs pick_next_task Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:55 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/16] sched: Add task_struct pointer to sched_class::set_curr_task Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:57 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/16] sched/fair: Export newidle_balance() Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:58 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Expose newidle_balance() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/16] sched: Allow put_prev_task() to drop rq->lock Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:58 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/16] " mark gross
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/16] sched: Rework pick_next_task() slow-path Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-08 10:59 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 17:01 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/16] " mark gross
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/16] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-26 17:14 ` mark gross
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/16] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-31 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 15:23 ` Vineeth Pillai
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/16] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-26 20:59 ` mark gross
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/16] sched: A quick and dirty cgroup tagging interface Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/16] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-06-07 23:36 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/16] sched/fair: Add a few assertions Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/16] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/16] sched: Debug bits Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-05-29 21:02 ` Peter Oskolkov
2019-05-30 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3 Aubrey Li
2019-05-30 14:17 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-05-31 4:55 ` Aubrey Li
2019-05-31 3:01 ` Aaron Lu
2019-05-31 5:12 ` Aubrey Li
2019-05-31 6:09 ` Aaron Lu
2019-05-31 6:53 ` Aubrey Li
2019-05-31 7:44 ` Aaron Lu
2019-05-31 8:26 ` Aubrey Li
2019-05-31 21:08 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-06-06 15:26 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-06-12 1:52 ` Li, Aubrey
2019-06-12 16:06 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-06-12 16:33 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-06-13 0:03 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-06-13 3:22 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-06-17 2:51 ` Aubrey Li
2019-06-19 18:33 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-07-18 10:07 ` Aaron Lu
2019-07-18 23:27 ` Tim Chen
2019-07-19 5:52 ` Aaron Lu
2019-07-19 11:48 ` Aubrey Li
2019-07-19 18:33 ` Tim Chen
2019-07-22 10:26 ` Aubrey Li
2019-07-22 10:43 ` Aaron Lu
2019-07-23 2:52 ` Aubrey Li
2019-07-25 14:30 ` Aaron Lu
2019-07-25 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] wrapper for cfs_rq->min_vruntime Aaron Lu
2019-07-25 14:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] core vruntime comparison Aaron Lu
2019-08-06 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-25 14:33 ` [PATCH 3/3] temp hack to make tick based schedule happen Aaron Lu
2019-07-25 21:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3 Li, Aubrey
2019-07-26 15:21 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-07-26 21:29 ` Tim Chen
2019-07-31 2:42 ` Li, Aubrey
2019-08-02 15:37 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-08-05 15:55 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-06 3:24 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-06 6:56 ` Aubrey Li
2019-08-06 7:04 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-06 12:24 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-06 13:49 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-06 16:14 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-06 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-06 15:53 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-06 17:03 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2019-08-06 17:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-06 21:19 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-08 6:47 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-08 17:27 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-08 21:42 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-10 14:15 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-12 15:38 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-08-13 2:24 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-08 12:55 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-08 16:39 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-10 14:18 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-05 20:09 ` Phil Auld
2019-08-06 13:54 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-06 14:17 ` Phil Auld
2019-08-06 14:41 ` Aaron Lu
2019-08-06 14:55 ` Phil Auld
2019-08-07 8:58 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-07 17:10 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-15 16:09 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-16 2:33 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-05 1:44 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-09-06 22:17 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-18 21:27 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-06 18:30 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-11 14:02 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-11 16:19 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-11 16:47 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-09-12 12:35 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-12 17:29 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-13 14:15 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-13 17:13 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-30 11:53 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-02 20:48 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-10 13:54 ` Aaron Lu
2019-10-10 14:29 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-11 7:33 ` Aaron Lu
2019-10-11 11:32 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-11 12:01 ` Aaron Lu
2019-10-11 12:10 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-12 3:55 ` Aaron Lu
2019-10-13 12:44 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-14 9:57 ` Aaron Lu
2019-10-21 12:30 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-09-12 12:04 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-12 17:05 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-13 13:57 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-12 23:12 ` Aubrey Li
2019-09-15 14:14 ` Aaron Lu
2019-09-18 1:33 ` Aubrey Li
2019-09-18 20:40 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-18 22:16 ` Aubrey Li
2019-09-30 14:36 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-10-29 20:40 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-11-01 21:42 ` Tim Chen
2019-10-29 9:11 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:15 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:16 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:17 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:18 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:18 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:19 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 9:20 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-10-29 20:34 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-11-15 16:30 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-09-25 2:40 ` Aubrey Li
2019-09-25 17:24 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-25 22:07 ` Aubrey Li
2019-09-30 15:22 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-08-27 21:14 ` Matthew Garrett
2019-08-27 21:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 15:30 ` Phil Auld
2019-08-28 16:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:37 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-29 14:30 ` Phil Auld
2019-08-29 14:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-10 14:27 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-09-18 21:12 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-28 15:59 ` Tim Chen
2019-08-28 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-27 23:24 ` Aubrey Li
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