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From: Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Li, Xin3" <xin3.li@intel.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: the x86 sysret_rip test fails on the Intel FRED architecture
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 21:29:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1df7cdf-b265-4bb9-92d7-f20a656931fd@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <096C16C1-5139-4775-8B45-B5A33F1C6F6D@zytor.com>

On 20/01/2023 9:17 pm, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On January 20, 2023 1:10:09 PM PST, Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 20/01/2023 8:50 pm, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> On January 20, 2023 10:52:02 AM PST, Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 20/01/2023 5:45 pm, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>>>> On 1/19/23 23:49, Li, Xin3 wrote:
>>>>>> The x86 sysret_rip test has the following assertion:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         /* R11 and EFLAGS should already match. */
>>>>>>         assert(ctx->uc_mcontext.gregs[REG_EFL] ==
>>>>>>                ctx->uc_mcontext.gregs[REG_R11]);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is being tested to avoid kernel state leak due to sysret vs iret,
>>>>>> but that on FRED r11 is *always* preserved, and the test just fails.
>>>>> Let's figure out the reason that FRED acts differently, first.  Right
>>>>> now, the SDM says:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	SYSCALL also saves RFLAGS into R11
>>>>>
>>>>> so that behavior of SYSCALL _looks_ architectural to me.  Was this
>>>>> change in SYSCALL behavior with FRED intentional?
>>>> FRED 3.0 Section 7.4 says the only changes for the SYSCALL and SYSENTER
>>>> instructions are the enablement conditions.  Nowhere else is there
>>>> mention of a FRED OS needing to emulate legacy syscall behaviour by
>>>> adjusting %r11/%rcx
>>>>
>>>> However, ERETU does handle flags different to SYSRET (in particular, I
>>>> think you can establish TF on the instruction boundary after SYSCALL
>>>> now).  What are the raw values of REG_EFL and REG_R11 ?
>>>>
>>>> ~Andrew
>>>>
>>> Just to avoid any confusion:
>>>
>>> Syscall and sysenter in a FRED system are treated equivalently to software interrupts, e.g. INT 0x80. They do not modify any registers.
>> In which case can Intel please publish a v4 spec which actually says this?
>>
>> I can't see anything in the v3 spec which mentions a change in register
>> behaviour for SYSCALL.
>>
>> ~Andrew
>>
> I'll make sure it makes it into the next update.

Thankyou!

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-01-20 17:45 ` the x86 sysret_rip test fails on the Intel FRED architecture Dave Hansen
     [not found]   ` <eb81f7f2-d266-d999-b41a-e6eae086e731@citrix.com>
2023-01-20 20:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-20 21:10       ` Andrew Cooper
2023-01-20 21:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-20 21:29           ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2023-01-21  4:59   ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-21 16:46     ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-21 21:47       ` Brian Gerst
2023-01-22  3:01         ` Li, Xin3
2023-01-22  3:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-22  3:38     ` Li, Xin3
2023-01-22  4:34       ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-22  4:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-22  8:22           ` Li, Xin3
2023-01-22  8:54             ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-22  9:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-22 23:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-23  9:02           ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-23 19:43             ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-23 23:43               ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-23 23:58                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24  0:26                   ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip update for FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  0:26                     ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a " Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  1:40                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24  2:31                         ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-26 20:08                         ` Ammar Faizi
2023-02-15  9:17                           ` Andrew Cooper
2023-02-15 10:29                             ` Andrew Cooper
2023-02-15 10:44                               ` Ammar Faizi
2023-02-15 10:42                             ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-26 20:16                         ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  0:26                     ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-23 23:53             ` the x86 sysret_rip test fails on the Intel FRED architecture Andrew Cooper
2023-01-24  0:01               ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24  2:27                 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip update for FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  2:27                   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a " Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  5:44                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24  2:27                   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  6:16                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24  6:41                       ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  6:47                         ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24  9:07                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24  9:12                           ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24 10:09                             ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip update for FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24 10:09                               ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a " Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24 10:09                               ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24 20:59                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-25  3:29                                   ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24 21:32                               ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip update for FRED system Li, Xin3
2023-01-24 21:37                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-24 23:20                                   ` Li, Xin3
2023-01-25  3:27                                   ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-24 21:51                                 ` Andrew Cooper
2023-01-24 23:58                                   ` Li, Xin3
2023-01-25  3:22                             ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/2] sysret_rip update for the Intel FRED architecture Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  3:22                               ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  3:37                                 ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  3:44                                   ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  3:22                               ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  3:49                             ` [RFC PATCH v5 0/2] sysret_rip update for the Intel FRED architecture Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  3:49                               ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  8:39                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-25  8:53                                   ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  9:57                                   ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 10:01                                     ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 10:17                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-25 11:37                                       ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 17:25                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-25  3:49                               ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25  8:22                               ` [RFC PATCH v5 0/2] sysret_rip update for the Intel FRED architecture Li, Xin3
2023-01-25  8:32                                 ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 17:07                                   ` Li, Xin3
2023-01-25 17:24                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-25 17:41                                       ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 17:48                                         ` Li, Xin3
2023-02-15  7:42                                           ` Li, Xin3
2023-02-15  7:51                                             ` Ammar Faizi
2023-02-18  4:27                                             ` Ammar Faizi
2023-02-18  4:51                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-25 21:17                             ` [RFC PATCH v6 0/3] " Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 21:17                               ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/3] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 23:01                                 ` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 21:17                               ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/3] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 21:17                               ` [RFC PATCH v6 3/3] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Test opportunistic SYSRET Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 23:24                             ` [RFC PATCH v7 0/3] sysret_rip update for the Intel FRED architecture Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 23:24                               ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/3] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Handle syscall in a FRED system Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 23:24                               ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/3] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Add more syscall tests with respect to `%rcx` and `%r11` Ammar Faizi
2023-01-25 23:24                               ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/3] selftests/x86: sysret_rip: Test SYSRET with a signal handler Ammar Faizi

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