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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v3 01/19] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:15:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2ed9df2-c06b-f0d3-d50a-d03166f586df@cambridgegreys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181130031438.GQ4922@garbanzo.do-not-panic.com>

On 30/11/2018 03:14, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:36:18AM -0800, Brendan Higgins wrote:
>> +#define module_test(module) \
>> +		static int module_kunit_init##module(void) \
>> +		{ \
>> +			return kunit_run_tests(&module); \
>> +		} \
>> +		late_initcall(module_kunit_init##module)
> Here in lies an assumption that suffices. I'm inclined to believe we
> need new initcall level here so to ensure we *do* run after all the
> respective kernels iniut calls. Otherwise we're left at the whims of
> link order for kunit. For instance if a kunit test relies on frameworks
> which are also late_initcall() we'd have complete incompatibility with
> anything linked *after* kunit.
>
>> diff --git a/kunit/Kconfig b/kunit/Kconfig
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000000000..49b44c4f6630a
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/kunit/Kconfig
>> @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@
>> +#
>> +# KUnit base configuration
>> +#
>> +
>> +menu "KUnit support"
>> +
>> +config KUNIT
>> +	bool "Enable support for unit tests (KUnit)"
>> +	depends on UML
> Consider using:
>
> if UML
>     ...
> endif
>
> That allows the depends to be done once.
>
>> +	help
>> +	  Enables support for kernel unit tests (KUnit), a lightweight unit
>> +	  testing and mocking framework for the Linux kernel. These tests are
>> +	  able to be run locally on a developer's workstation without a VM or
>> +	  special hardware.
>
> Some mention of UML may be good here?
>
>> For more information, please see
>> +	  Documentation/kunit/
>> +
>> +endmenu
> I'm a bit conflicted here. This currently depends on UML but yet you
> noted on RFC v2 that your intention is to liberate kunit from UML and
> ideally allow unit tests to depend only on userspace. I've addressed
> tests using both selftests kernels drivers and also re-written kernel
> APIs to userspace to test there. I think we may need to live with both.
>
> Then for the UML stuff, I think if we *really* accept that UML will
> always be a viable option we should probably consider now throwing these
> things under drivers/platform/uml/. This follows the pattern of arch
> specific drivers. Whether or not we end up with a complete userspace

UML platform drivers predate that and are under arch/um/drivers/

We should either keep to current convention or consider relocating the 
existing ones - having things spread in different places around the tree 
is not good in the long run (UML already has a few of those under the 
x86 tree, let's not increase the number).

> component independent of UML may implicate having a shared component
> somewhere else.
>
> Likewise, I realize the goal is to *avoid* using a virtual machine for
> these tests, but would it in any way make sense to share kunit to be
> supported for other architectures to allow easier-to-write tests as
> well?
>
>    Luis
>
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-- 
Anton R. Ivanov
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-05 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-28 19:36 [RFC v3 00/19] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 01/19] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:14   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-01  1:51     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-01  2:57       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-05 13:15     ` Anton Ivanov [this message]
2018-12-05 14:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-05 14:49         ` Anton Ivanov
2018-11-30  3:28   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-01  2:08     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-01  3:10       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 22:47         ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-01  3:02   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 02/19] kunit: test: add test resource management API Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 03/19] kunit: test: add string_stream a std::stream like string builder Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:29   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-01  2:14     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-01  3:12       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 10:55     ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-04  0:35       ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 04/19] kunit: test: add test_stream a std::stream like logger Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 05/19] kunit: test: add the concept of expectations Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 06/19] arch: um: enable running kunit from User Mode Linux Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 21:26   ` Rob Herring
2018-11-30  3:37     ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-11-30 14:05       ` Rob Herring
2018-11-30 18:22         ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 23:22           ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:30   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 07/19] kunit: test: add initial tests Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:40   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 23:26     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-03 23:43       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 08/19] arch: um: add shim to trap to allow installing a fault catcher for tests Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:34   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 23:34     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-03 23:46       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-04  0:44         ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:41   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 23:37     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 09/19] kunit: test: add the concept of assertions Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 10/19] kunit: test: add test managed resource tests Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 11/19] kunit: add Python libraries for handing KUnit config and kernel Brendan Higgins
2018-11-29 13:54   ` Kieran Bingham
2018-12-03 23:48     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-04 20:47       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-06 12:32         ` Kieran Bingham
2018-12-06 15:37           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-07 11:30             ` Kieran Bingham
2018-12-11 14:09             ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-11 14:41               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-11 17:01                 ` Anton Ivanov
2019-02-09  0:40                   ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-07  1:05           ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-07 18:35           ` Kent Overstreet
2018-11-30  3:44   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 23:50     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-04 20:48       ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 12/19] kunit: add KUnit wrapper script and simple output parser Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 13/19] kunit: improve output from python wrapper Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 14/19] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit Brendan Higgins
2018-11-29 13:56   ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-30  3:45     ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-03 23:53       ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-06 12:16         ` Kieran Bingham
2019-02-09  0:56           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-11 12:16             ` Kieran Bingham
2019-02-12 22:10               ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-13 21:55                 ` Kieran Bingham
2019-02-14  0:17                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 17:26                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-02-14 22:07                       ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 15/19] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KUnit the unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 16/19] arch: um: make UML unflatten device tree when testing Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 21:16   ` Rob Herring
2018-12-04  0:00     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-30  3:46   ` Luis Chamberlain
2018-12-04  0:02     ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 17/19] of: unittest: migrate tests to run on KUnit Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 20:56   ` Rob Herring
2018-11-30  0:39     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-12-04  0:13       ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-04 13:40         ` Rob Herring
2018-12-05 23:42           ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-07  0:41             ` Rob Herring
2018-12-04  0:08     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-13  1:44     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 20:10       ` Rob Herring
2019-02-14 21:52         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-18 22:56       ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-28  0:29         ` Brendan Higgins
2018-12-04 10:56   ` Frank Rowand
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 18/19] of: unittest: split out a couple of test cases from unittest Brendan Higgins
2018-12-04 10:58   ` Frank Rowand
2018-12-05 23:54     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 23:57       ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-15  0:56         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-15  2:05           ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-15 10:56             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-18 22:25               ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-20 20:44                 ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-20 20:47                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-28  3:52                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  0:22                     ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-22  1:30                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  1:47                         ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-25 22:15                           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 16:57                         ` Rob Herring
2019-09-21 23:57                           ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-22  1:34                       ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-25 22:18                         ` Brendan Higgins
2018-11-28 19:36 ` [RFC v3 19/19] of: unittest: split up some super large test cases Brendan Higgins
2018-12-04 10:52 ` [RFC v3 00/19] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Frank Rowand
2018-12-04 11:40 ` Frank Rowand
2018-12-04 13:49   ` Rob Herring
2018-12-05 23:10     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  0:27       ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-25 22:04         ` Brendan Higgins

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