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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	"Schaufler, Casey" <casey.schaufler@intel.com>,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKLM <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/18] LSM: Allow arbitrary LSM ordering
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:46:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6e7521f-7810-a938-3f0e-daefb6579344@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jK5CzXUii97q_yk3KzBTw0SOmoc=-zcm+3jAqEHe76AgQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2018/09/17 8:00, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Casey Schaufler
> <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>> One solution is to leave security= as is, not affecting "minor"
>> modules and only allowing specification of one major module, and adding
> 
> I would much prefer this, yes.
> 
> A question remains: how do we map the existing "security=" selection
> of a "major" LSM against what will be next "exclusive" plus tomoyo,
> and in the extreme case, nothing?
> 
> Perhaps as part of deprecating "security=", we could just declare that
> it is selecting between SELinux, AppArmor, Smack, and Tomoyo only?
> 
>> another boot option security.stack= that overrides a security= option
>> and that takes the list as you've implemented here.
> 
> or "lsm.stack=" that overrides "security=" entirely?


Yes, I think we can add new option.

For example, introducing lsm= and obsoleting security= (because total length for
kernel command line is limited while enumeration makes the parameter value longer).

  security= works like current behavior.

  lsm= requires explicit enumeration of all modules (except capability which has to
  be always enabled) which should be enabled at boot.

  security= is ignored if lsm= is specified.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-17  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-16  0:30 [PATCH 00/18] LSM: Prepare for explict LSM ordering Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 01/18] vmlinux.lds.h: Avoid copy/paste of security_init section Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 02/18] LSM: Rename .security_initcall section to .lsm_info Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 03/18] LSM: Remove initcall tracing Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 04/18] LSM: Convert from initcall to struct lsm_info Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 05/18] vmlinux.lds.h: Move LSM_TABLE into INIT_DATA Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 06/18] LSM: Convert security_initcall() into DEFINE_LSM() Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 07/18] LSM: Add minor LSM initialization loop Kees Cook
2018-09-16  1:27   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-16  1:49     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 08/18] integrity: Initialize as LSM_TYPE_MINOR Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 09/18] LSM: Record LSM name in struct lsm_info Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 10/18] LSM: Plumb visibility into optional "enabled" state Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 11/18] LSM: Lift LSM selection out of individual LSMs Kees Cook
2018-09-16  1:32   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-16  1:47     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 12/18] LSM: Introduce ordering details in struct lsm_info Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 13/18] LoadPin: Initialize as LSM_TYPE_MINOR Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 14/18] Yama: " Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 15/18] capability: " Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 16/18] LSM: Allow arbitrary LSM ordering Kees Cook
2018-09-16 18:49   ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-16 23:00     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-17  0:46       ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-09-17 15:06       ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 16:24         ` Kees Cook
2018-09-17 17:13           ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 18:14             ` Kees Cook
2018-09-17 19:23               ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 19:55                 ` John Johansen
2018-09-17 21:57                   ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 22:36                     ` John Johansen
2018-09-17 23:10                       ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-09-17 23:20                         ` Kees Cook
2018-09-17 23:26                           ` John Johansen
2018-09-17 23:28                             ` Kees Cook
2018-09-17 23:40                               ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 23:30                           ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 23:47                             ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-09-18  0:00                               ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-17 23:25                         ` John Johansen
2018-09-17 23:25                       ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-18  0:00                       ` Kees Cook
2018-09-18  0:24                         ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-18  0:45                           ` Kees Cook
2018-09-18  0:57                             ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-18  0:59                               ` Kees Cook
2018-09-18  1:08                             ` John Johansen
2018-09-17 19:35               ` John Johansen
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 17/18] LSM: Provide init debugging Kees Cook
2018-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 18/18] LSM: Don't ignore initialization failures Kees Cook

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