From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5397DC46460 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23CB21A08 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org C23CB21A08 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=datenfreihafen.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727796AbeHKXCG (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:02:06 -0400 Received: from proxima.lasnet.de ([78.47.171.185]:47723 "EHLO proxima.lasnet.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727396AbeHKXCG (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:02:06 -0400 Received: from [IPv6:2003:e9:d72e:f37f:3252:cbff:fe54:190f] (p200300E9D72EF37F3252CBFFFE54190F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:e9:d72e:f37f:3252:cbff:fe54:190f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: stefan@datenfreihafen.org) by proxima.lasnet.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9499FC85D4; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 00/15] net: A socket API for LoRa To: Alan Cox , Jian-Hong Pan Cc: Andreas Faerber , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Pirko , Marcel Holtmann , "David S. Miller" , Matthias Brugger , Janus Piwek , =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_R=c3=b6der?= , Dollar Chen , Ken Yu , =?UTF-8?Q?Konstantin_B=c3=b6hm?= , Jan Jongboom , Jon Ortego , contact@snootlab.com, Ben Whitten , Brian Ray , lora@globalsat.com.tw, Alexander Graf , mkubecek@suse.cz, Rob Herring , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Steve deRosier , Mark Brown , linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, pieter.robyns@uhasselt.be, Hasnain Virk , linux-wpan - ML , Daniele Comel , shess@hessware.de, Xue Liu References: <20180701110804.32415-1-afaerber@suse.de> <92ee4016-1da9-826b-3674-b2d604a64848@suse.de> <20180808213640.10a1d76f@alans-desktop> <20180809125939.39ac2cc9@alans-desktop> <20180810165711.59bf26f7@alans-desktop> From: Stefan Schmidt Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:30:29 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180810165711.59bf26f7@alans-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello. On 08/10/2018 05:57 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > Long term yes I think Alexander is right the inevitable fate of all > networks is to become a link layer in order to transmit IP frames 8) There should be a niche for both at the same time. LoRaWAN is relevant right now and we should aim for making it possible to run a native Linux gateway for it. As for IP for long range low power there is the static context header compression draft to adapt IPv6 to the characteristics for some use cases of such networks. Implementing it within the existing 6lwopan subsystem should be possible. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lpwan-ipv6-static-context-hc-16 regards Stefan Schmidt