From: Scott Wood <oss@buserror.net>
To: Jason Yan <yanaijie@huawei.com>, Daniel Axtens <dja@axtens.net>,
mpe@ellerman.id.au, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
diana.craciun@nxp.com, christophe.leroy@c-s.fr,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org, npiggin@gmail.com,
keescook@chromium.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, zhaohongjiang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 23:53:13 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8cd8f287934954cfa07dcf76ac73492e2d49a5b.camel@buserror.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8171d326-5138-4f5c-cff6-ad3ee606f0c2@huawei.com>
On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 16:18 +0800, Jason Yan wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> 在 2020/2/26 15:16, Daniel Axtens 写道:
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > > This is a try to implement KASLR for Freescale BookE64 which is based on
> > > my earlier implementation for Freescale BookE32:
> > > https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linuxppc-dev/list/?series=131718
> > >
> > > The implementation for Freescale BookE64 is similar as BookE32. One
> > > difference is that Freescale BookE64 set up a TLB mapping of 1G during
> > > booting. Another difference is that ppc64 needs the kernel to be
> > > 64K-aligned. So we can randomize the kernel in this 1G mapping and make
> > > it 64K-aligned. This can save some code to creat another TLB map at
> > > early boot. The disadvantage is that we only have about 1G/64K = 16384
> > > slots to put the kernel in.
> > >
> > > KERNELBASE
> > >
> > > 64K |--> kernel <--|
> > > | | |
> > > +--+--+--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ +--+--+
> > > | | | |....| | | | | | | | | |....| | |
> > > +--+--+--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ +--+--+
> > > | | 1G
> > > |-----> offset <-----|
> > >
> > > kernstart_virt_addr
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if the slot numbers is enough or the design has any
> > > defects. If you have some better ideas, I would be happy to hear that.
> > >
> > > Thank you all.
> > >
> >
> > Are you making any attempt to hide kernel address leaks in this series?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I've just been looking at the stackdump code just now, and it directly
> > prints link registers and stack pointers, which is probably enough to
> > determine the kernel base address:
> >
> > SPs: LRs: %pS pointer
> > [ 0.424506] [c0000000de403970] [c000000001fc0458] dump_stack+0xfc/0x154
> > (unreliable)
> > [ 0.424593] [c0000000de4039c0] [c000000000267eec] panic+0x258/0x5ac
> > [ 0.424659] [c0000000de403a60] [c0000000024d7a00]
> > mount_block_root+0x634/0x7c0
> > [ 0.424734] [c0000000de403be0] [c0000000024d8100]
> > prepare_namespace+0x1ec/0x23c
> > [ 0.424811] [c0000000de403c60] [c0000000024d7010]
> > kernel_init_freeable+0x804/0x880
> >
> > git grep \\\"REG\\\" arch/powerpc shows a few other uses like this, all
> > in process.c or in xmon.
> >
>
> Thanks for reminding this.
>
> > Maybe replacing the REG format string in KASLR mode would be sufficient?
> >
>
> Most archs have removed the address printing when dumping stack. Do we
> really have to print this?
>
> If we have to do this, maybe we can use "%pK" so that they will be
> hidden from unprivileged users.
I've found the addresses to be useful, especially if I had a way to dump the
stack data itself. Wouldn't the register dump also be likely to give away the
addresses?
I don't see any debug setting for %pK (or %p) to always print the actual
address (closest is kptr_restrict=1 but that only works in certain
contexts)... from looking at the code it seems it hashes even if kaslr is
entirely disabled? Or am I missing something?
-Scott
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-28 6:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-06 2:58 [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64 Jason Yan
2020-02-06 2:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/kaslr: refactor kaslr_legal_offset() and kaslr_early_init() Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:40 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26 2:11 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06 2:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: introduce reloc_kernel_entry() helper Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:41 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-06 2:58 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: implement KASLR for fsl_booke64 Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:48 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26 2:40 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26 3:33 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26 5:04 ` [RFC PATCH] Use IS_ENABLED() instead of #ifdefs Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26 6:26 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26 5:10 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: implement KASLR for fsl_booke64 Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26 5:08 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-03-04 21:44 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05 2:32 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06 2:58 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: do not clear the BSS for the second pass Jason Yan
2020-03-04 21:49 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05 3:14 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06 2:58 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: clear the original kernel if randomized Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:49 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26 2:44 ` Jason Yan
2020-03-04 21:53 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05 3:20 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06 2:58 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/kaslr: rename kaslr-booke32.rst to kaslr-booke.rst and add 64bit part Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:50 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26 2:46 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-13 3:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64 Jason Yan
2020-02-20 3:33 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26 7:16 ` Daniel Axtens
2020-02-26 8:18 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26 11:41 ` Daniel Axtens
2020-02-27 1:55 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-28 5:53 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2020-02-28 6:47 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-29 4:28 ` Scott Wood
2020-02-29 7:27 ` Jason Yan
2020-02-29 22:54 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-02 2:17 ` Jason Yan
2020-03-02 3:24 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-02 7:12 ` Jason Yan
2020-03-02 8:47 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-02 9:37 ` Jason Yan
2020-03-04 21:21 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05 3:22 ` Jason Yan
2020-03-04 12:47 [PATCH] vfsprintf: only hash addresses in security environment Jason Yan
2020-03-04 18:34 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-04 21:11 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64 Scott Wood
2020-03-04 22:36 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-06 18:33 ` Scott Wood
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