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From: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, mst@redhat.com,
	sgarzare@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	Linux kernel regressions list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	hch@infradead.org, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 13:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea040d59-8760-32d3-ce5b-4120ed0efaa5@leemhuis.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230601-herzallerliebst-dschungel-4515db351a0c@brauner>

On 01.06.23 12:47, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 09:58:38AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> On 19.05.23 14:15, Christian Brauner wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 10:25:11AM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 07:09:12PM -0500, Mike Christie wrote:
>>>>> This patch allows the vhost and vhost_task code to use CLONE_THREAD,
>>>>> CLONE_SIGHAND and CLONE_FILES. It's a RFC because I didn't do all the
>>>>> normal testing, haven't coverted vsock and vdpa, and I know you guys
>>>>> will not like the first patch. However, I think it better shows what
>>>>
>>>> Just to summarize the core idea behind my proposal is that no signal
>>>> handling changes are needed unless there's a bug in the current way
>>>> io_uring workers already work. All that should be needed is
>>>> s/PF_IO_WORKER/PF_USER_WORKER/ in signal.c.
>> [...]
>>>> So it feels like this should be achievable by adding a callback to
>>>> struct vhost_worker that get's called when vhost_worker() gets SIGKILL
>>>> and that all the users of vhost workers are forced to implement.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is more work but I think that's the right thing to do and not to
>>>> complicate our signal handling.
>>>>
>>>> Worst case if this can't be done fast enough we'll have to revert the
>>>> vhost parts. I think the user worker parts are mostly sane and are
>>>
>>> As mentioned, if we can't settle this cleanly before -rc4 we should
>>> revert the vhost parts unless Linus wants to have it earlier.
>>
>> Meanwhile -rc5 is just a few days away and there are still a lot of
>> discussions in the patch-set proposed to address the issues[1]. Which is
>> kinda great (albeit also why I haven't given it a spin yet), but on the
>> other hand makes we wonder:
> 
> You might've missed it in the thread but it seems everyone is currently
> operating under the assumption that the preferred way is to fix this is
> rather than revert. 

I saw that, but that was also a week ago already, so I slowly started to
wonder if plans might have/should be changed. Anyway: if that's still
the plan forward it's totally fine for me if it's fine for Linus. :-D

BTW: I for now didn't sit down to test Mike's patches, as due to all the
discussions I assumed new ones would be coming sooner or later anyway.
If it's worth giving them a shot, please let me know.

> [...]

Thx for the update!

Ciao, Thorsten

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-02 23:25 [PATCH v11 0/8] Use copy_process in vhost layer Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] fork: Make IO worker options flag based Mike Christie
2023-02-03  0:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] fork/vm: Move common PF_IO_WORKER behavior to new flag Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] fork: add USER_WORKER flag to not dup/clone files Mike Christie
2023-02-03  0:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] fork: Add USER_WORKER flag to ignore signals Mike Christie
2023-02-03  0:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05 16:06     ` Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] fork: allow kernel code to call copy_process Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] vhost_task: Allow vhost layer to use copy_process Mike Christie
2023-02-03  0:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] vhost: move worker thread fields to new struct Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] vhost: use vhost_tasks for worker threads Mike Christie
2023-05-05 13:40   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-05-05 18:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-05 22:37       ` Mike Christie
2023-05-06  1:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-08 17:13         ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-09  8:09         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-05-09  8:17           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-05-13 12:39         ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-05-13 15:08           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 14:23             ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-15 15:44               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:52                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-05-15 15:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 17:23                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 22:23                 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-15 22:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-16  3:53                     ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 13:18                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 13:40                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 15:56                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-16 18:37                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 20:12                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-17 17:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-17 18:22                             ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16  8:39                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-16 16:24                     ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 16:44                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-19 12:15                     ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND Christian Brauner
2023-06-01  7:58                       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-06-01 10:18                         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-06-01 10:47                         ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-01 11:29                           ` Thorsten Leemhuis [this message]
2023-06-01 12:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-01 16:10                           ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 14:06     ` [PATCH v11 8/8] vhost: use vhost_tasks for worker threads Linux regression tracking #adding (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-05-26  9:03       ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-06-02 11:38       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-07-20 13:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-23  4:03     ` michael.christie
2023-07-23  9:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10 18:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-11 18:51         ` Mike Christie
2023-08-13 19:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-14  3:13             ` michael.christie
2023-02-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] Use copy_process in vhost layer Christian Brauner
2023-05-18  0:09 [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND Mike Christie
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] signal: Dequeue SIGKILL even if SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT/group_exec_task is set Mike Christie
2023-05-18  2:34   ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18  3:49   ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 15:21     ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 16:25       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 16:42         ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 17:04           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 18:28             ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 22:57               ` Mike Christie
2023-05-19  4:16                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-19 23:24                   ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 13:30               ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18  8:08   ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 15:27     ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 17:07       ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 18:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 18:12           ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 18:23             ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] vhost/vhost_task: Hook vhost layer into signal handler Mike Christie
2023-05-18  0:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-18  1:01     ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18  8:16       ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] fork/vhost_task: Switch to CLONE_THREAD and CLONE_SIGHAND Mike Christie
2023-05-18  8:18   ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] vhost-net: Move vhost_net_open Mike Christie
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] vhost: Add callback that stops new work and waits on running ones Mike Christie
2023-05-18 14:18   ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 15:03     ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 15:09       ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 18:38       ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] vhost-scsi: Add callback to stop and wait on works Mike Christie
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] vhost-net: " Mike Christie
2023-05-18  0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] fork/vhost_task: remove no_files Mike Christie
2023-05-18  1:04   ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18  8:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND Christian Brauner
2023-05-18  8:40   ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 14:30   ` Christian Brauner

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