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From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>, Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: "Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video encoder interface
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:04:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea1b39bf1a14f73b74d17c925f67ea3613ea6eae.camel@ndufresne.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fcad4ca0-cfdd-d0fb-4b18-808426584755@xs4all.nl>

Le mercredi 23 janvier 2019 à 12:28 +0100, Hans Verkuil a écrit :
> On 01/23/19 11:00, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:37 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > > On 11/17/2018 05:18 AM, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > > > Le lundi 12 novembre 2018 à 14:23 +0100, Hans Verkuil a écrit :
> > > > > On 10/22/2018 04:49 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > > > > +      rely on it. The ``V4L2_BUF_FLAG_LAST`` buffer flag should be used
> > > > > > +      instead.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Question: should new codec drivers still implement the EOS event?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm been asking around, but I think here is a good place. Do we really
> > > > need the FLAG_LAST in userspace ? Userspace can also wait for the first
> > > > EPIPE return from DQBUF.
> > > 
> > > I'm interested in hearing Tomasz' opinion. This flag is used already, so there
> > > definitely is a backwards compatibility issue here.
> > > 
> > 
> > FWIW, it would add the overhead of 1 more system call, although I
> > don't think it's of our concern.
> > 
> > My personal feeling is that using error codes for signaling normal
> > conditions isn't very elegant, though.
> 
> I agree. Let's keep this flag.

Agreed, though a reminder of the initial question, "do we keep the EOS
event ?", and I think the event can be dropped.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> 	Hans
> 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +3. Once all ``OUTPUT`` buffers queued before the ``V4L2_ENC_CMD_STOP`` call and
> > > > > > +   the last ``CAPTURE`` buffer are dequeued, the encoder is stopped and it will
> > > > > > +   accept, but not process any newly queued ``OUTPUT`` buffers until the client
> > > > > > +   issues any of the following operations:
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +   * ``V4L2_ENC_CMD_START`` - the encoder will resume operation normally,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps mention that this does not reset the encoder? It's not immediately clear
> > > > > when reading this.
> > > > 
> > > > Which drivers supports this ? I believe I tried with Exynos in the
> > > > past, and that didn't work. How do we know if a driver supports this or
> > > > not. Do we make it mandatory ? When it's not supported, it basically
> > > > mean userspace need to cache and resend the header in userspace, and
> > > > also need to skip to some sync point.
> > > 
> > > Once we agree on the spec, then the next step will be to add good compliance
> > > checks and update drivers that fail the tests.
> > > 
> > > To check if the driver support this ioctl you can call VIDIOC_TRY_ENCODER_CMD
> > > to see if the functionality is supported.
> > 
> > There is nothing here for the hardware to support. It's an entirely
> > driver thing, since it just needs to wait for the encoder to complete
> > all the pending frames and stop enqueuing more frames to the decoder
> > until V4L2_ENC_CMD_START is called. Any driver that can't do it must
> > be fixed, since otherwise you have no way to ensure that you got all
> > the encoded output.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-24 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-22 14:48 [PATCH v2 0/2] Document memory-to-memory video codec interfaces Tomasz Figa
2018-10-22 14:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video decoder interface Tomasz Figa
2018-10-29  9:45   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2018-10-29 10:06     ` Tomasz Figa
2018-10-29 10:07       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-12 11:37   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-22 10:02     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-22 14:47       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-23  5:27         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23  8:10           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-24  9:06           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-24 19:55             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-25  3:27               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30  4:02                 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-02-06  5:35                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-09  9:47                     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-10  9:26                       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-12 15:04   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2018-11-15 14:34   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-17  4:31     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-11-17 11:43       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-18  1:25         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-10-22 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video encoder interface Tomasz Figa
2018-11-12 13:23   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-17  4:18     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-11-17 11:37       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-18  1:34         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-23 10:02           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-24 20:02             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-23 10:00         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23 11:28           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-24 20:04             ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]
2019-01-25  3:29               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23  9:52     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23 13:04       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-24 20:14         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-25  3:59           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30 15:06             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-02-06  5:49               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-10-22 15:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Document memory-to-memory video codec interfaces Hans Verkuil
2018-10-23  0:54   ` Tomasz Figa

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