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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	zwisler@kernel.org, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	bvanassche@acm.org
Subject: Re: [driver-core PATCH v6 4/9] driver core: Move async_synchronize_full call
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:38:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec672fcf5924ef267f35b11c13ddc50c815b1a9f.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4ibARHP1Gji2cZQ704BeiKL26Bh13G58eyB+PjQJSD58w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 18:11 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:07 AM Alexander Duyck
> <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Move the async_synchronize_full call out of __device_release_driver and
> > into driver_detach.
> > 
> > The idea behind this is that the async_synchronize_full call will only
> > guarantee that any existing async operations are flushed. This doesn't do
> > anything to guarantee that a hotplug event that may occur while we are
> > doing the release of the driver will not be asynchronously scheduled.
> > 
> > By moving this into the driver_detach path we can avoid potential deadlocks
> > as we aren't holding the device lock at this point and we should not have
> > the driver we want to flush loaded so the flush will take care of any
> > asynchronous events the driver we are detaching might have scheduled.
> > 
> 
> What problem is this patch solving in practice, because if there were
> drivers issuing async work from probe they would need to be
> responsible for flushing it themselves. That said it seems broken that
> the async probing infrastructure takes the device_lock inside
> async_schedule and then holds the lock when calling
> async_syncrhonize_full. Is it just luck that this hasn't caused
> deadlocks in practice?

My understanding is that it has caused some deadlocks. There was
another patch set that Bart Van Assche had submitted that was
addressing this. I just tweaked my patch set to address both the issues
he had seen as well as the performance improvements included in my
original patch set.

> Given that the device_lock is hidden from lockdep I think it would be
> helpful to have a custom lock_map_acquire() setup, similar to the
> workqueue core, to try to keep the locking rules enforced /
> documented.
> 
> The only documentation I can find for async-probe deadlock avoidance
> is the comment block in do_init_module() for async_probe_requested.

Would it make sense to just add any lockdep or deadlock documentation
as a seperate patch? I can work on it but I am not sure it makes sense
to add to this patch since there is a chance this one will need to be
backported to stable at some point.

> Stepping back a bit, does this patch have anything to do with the
> performance improvement, or is it a separate "by the way I also found
> this" kind of patch?

This is more of a seperate "by the way" type of patch based on the
discussion Bart and I had about how to best address the issue. There
may be some improvement since we only call async_synchronize_full once
and only when we are removing the driver, but I don't think it would be
very noticable.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-08 18:06 [driver-core PATCH v6 0/9] Add NUMA aware async_schedule calls Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 1/9] workqueue: Provide queue_work_node to queue work near a given NUMA node Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  1:01   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 2/9] async: Add support for queueing on specific " Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:36   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-11 19:32   ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:53     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 20:35       ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 22:17         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 23:27         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 19:59     ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-11 20:33       ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 21:24         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-13 22:10         ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-27  1:10   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 3/9] device core: Consolidate locking and unlocking of parent and device Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 22:43   ` jane.chu
2018-11-08 22:48     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  1:44   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 4/9] driver core: Move async_synchronize_full call Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  2:11   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:38     ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2018-11-27 20:35       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 21:36         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 22:26           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 5/9] driver core: Establish clear order of operations for deferred probe and remove Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:47   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 6/9] driver core: Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:59   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27  2:48   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:57     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 18:32       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 7/9] driver core: Attach devices on CPU local to device node Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  4:50   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 8/9] PM core: Use new async_schedule_dev command Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  4:52   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 9/9] libnvdimm: Schedule device registration on node local to the device Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  2:21   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 18:04     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 19:34       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:33         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:50           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 21:22             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 22:34               ` Dan Williams

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