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From: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, len.brown@intel.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	reinette.chatre@intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com,
	isaku.yamahata@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton for detecting and initializing TDX on demand
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:44:19 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edcae7ab1e6a074255a6624e8e0536bd77f84eed.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3731a852-71b8-b081-2426-3b0a650e174c@intel.com>

On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 07:27 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/27/22 17:00, Kai Huang wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 07:49 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > I think we can use pr_info_once() when all_cpus_booted() returns false, and get
> > rid of printing "SEAMRR not enabled" in seamrr_enabled().  How about below?
> > 
> > static bool seamrr_enabled(void)
> > {
> > 	if (!all_cpus_booted())
> > 		pr_info_once("Not all present CPUs have been booted.  Report
> > SEAMRR as not enabled");
> > 
> > 	return __seamrr_enabled();
> > }
> > 
> > And we don't print "SEAMRR not enabled".
> 
> That's better, but even better than that would be removing all that
> SEAMRR gunk in the first place.

Agreed.

> > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > +	 * TDX requires at least two KeyIDs: one global KeyID to
> > > > > > +	 * protect the metadata of the TDX module and one or more
> > > > > > +	 * KeyIDs to run TD guests.
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	return tdx_keyid_num >= 2;
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +static int __tdx_detect(void)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	/* The TDX module is not loaded if SEAMRR is disabled */
> > > > > > +	if (!seamrr_enabled()) {
> > > > > > +		pr_info("SEAMRR not enabled.\n");
> > > > > > +		goto no_tdx_module;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why even bother with the SEAMRR stuff?  It sounded like you can "ping"
> > > > > the module with SEAMCALL.  Why not just use that directly?
> > > > 
> > > > SEAMCALL will cause #GP if SEAMRR is not enabled.  We should check whether
> > > > SEAMRR is enabled before making SEAMCALL.
> > > 
> > > So...  You could actually get rid of all this code.  if SEAMCALL #GP's,
> > > then you say, "Whoops, the firmware didn't load the TDX module
> > > correctly, sorry."
> > 
> > Yes we can just use the first SEAMCALL (TDH.SYS.INIT) to detect whether TDX
> > module is loaded.  If SEAMCALL is successful, the module is loaded.
> > 
> > One problem is currently the patch to flush cache for kexec() uses
> > seamrr_enabled() and tdx_keyid_sufficient() to determine whether we need to
> > flush the cache.  The reason is, similar to SME, the flush is done in
> > stop_this_cpu(), but the status of TDX module initialization is protected by
> > mutex, so we cannot use TDX module status in stop_this_cpu() to determine
> > whether to flush.
> > 
> > If that patch makes sense, I think we still need to detect SEAMRR?
> 
> Please go look at stop_this_cpu() closely.  What are the AMD folks doing
> for SME exactly?  Do they, for instance, do the WBINVD when the kernel
> used SME?  No, they just use a pretty low-level check if the processor
> supports SME.
> 
> Doing the same kind of thing for TDX is fine.  You could check the MTRR
> MSR bits that tell you if SEAMRR is supported and then read the MSR
> directly.  You could check the CPUID enumeration for MKTME or
> CPUID.B.0.EDX (I'm not even sure what this is but the SEAMCALL spec says
> it is part of SEAMCALL operation).

I am not sure about this CPUID either.  

> 
> Just like the SME test, it doesn't even need to be precise.  It just
> needs to be 100% accurate in that it is *ALWAYS* set for any system that
> might have dirtied cache aliases.
> 
> I'm not sure why you are so fixated on SEAMRR specifically for this.

I see.  I think I can simply use MTRR.SEAMRR bit check.  If CPU supports SEAMRR,
then basically it supports MKTME.

Is this look good for you?

	
> 
> 
> ...
> > "During initializing the TDX module, one step requires some SEAMCALL must be
> > done on all logical cpus enabled by BIOS, otherwise a later step will fail. 
> > Disable CPU hotplug during the initialization process to prevent any CPU going
> > offline during initializing the TDX module.  Note it is caller's responsibility
> > to guarantee all BIOS-enabled CPUs are in cpu_present_mask and all present CPUs
> > are online."
> 
> But, what if a CPU went offline just before this lock was taken?  What
> if the caller make sure all present CPUs are online, makes the call,
> then a CPU is taken offline.  The lock wouldn't do any good.
> 
> What purpose does the lock serve?

I thought cpus_read_lock() can prevent any CPU from going offline, no?


-- 
Thanks,
-Kai



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-28 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-06  4:49 [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect SEAM Kai Huang
2022-04-18 22:29   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-18 22:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-19  3:38     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:21   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:12     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 23:28       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:49         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27  0:22           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27  0:44             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:22           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 22:39             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect TDX private KeyIDs Kai Huang
2022-04-19  5:39   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19  9:41     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-19  5:42   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19 10:07     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Implement the SEAMCALL base function Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:07   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20  4:16     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20  7:29       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 10:39         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:37   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:29     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton for detecting and initializing TDX on demand Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:53   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20  4:37     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20  5:21       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-20 14:30       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:35         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:53   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:43     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:00         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:27           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:44             ` Kai Huang [this message]
2022-04-28 23:53               ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  0:11                 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  0:26                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  0:59                     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect P-SEAMLDR and TDX module Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:01     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 21:30         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] x86/virt/tdx: Shut down TDX module in case of error Kai Huang
2022-04-23 15:39   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:41     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26  1:48       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26  2:12         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:59   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:06     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 16:19       ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:51         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do TDX module global initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-20 22:27   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:37     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do logical-cpu scope TDX module initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-24  1:27   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:55     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and convertible memory Kai Huang
2022-04-25  2:58   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26  0:05     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:15   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:15     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:06       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:14         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 17:47           ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02  5:04             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25  4:47             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25  4:57               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25 16:00                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 22:30       ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:56         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to coveret all system RAM as TDX memory Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:48   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:38     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:24   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:53     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  1:07       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  1:35         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  3:40           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  3:55             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] x86/virt/tdx: Choose to use " Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:55   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:39     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 15:54   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:32     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] x86/virt/tdx: Create TDMRs to cover all system RAM Kai Huang
2022-04-28 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:24     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 13:52       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:12   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:46     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:20       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 14:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 17:46           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:19             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 18:32               ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02  5:59         ` Kai Huang
2022-05-02 14:17           ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 21:55             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] x86/virt/tdx: Set up reserved areas for all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] x86/virt/tdx: Reserve TDX module global KeyID Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with TDMRs and " Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] x86: Flush cache of TDX private memory during kexec() Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add kernel command line to opt-in TDX host support Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:25   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for " Kai Huang
2022-04-14 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  1:15   ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 21:59     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:37       ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  0:50         ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:58           ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  1:40             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  3:04               ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29  5:35                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-03 23:59               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04  0:25                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-04  1:15                   ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05  9:54                     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05 13:51                       ` Dan Williams
2022-05-05 22:14                         ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06  0:22                           ` Dan Williams
2022-05-06  0:45                             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06  1:15                               ` Dan Williams
2022-05-06  1:46                                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06 15:57                                   ` Dan Williams
2022-05-09  2:46                                     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-10 10:25                                       ` Kai Huang
2022-05-07  0:09                         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-05-08 10:00                           ` Kai Huang
2022-05-09 10:33                             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-05-09 23:27                               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04 14:31                 ` Dan Williams
2022-05-04 22:50                   ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  1:01   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-28  1:21     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  2:58       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29  5:43         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:39         ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 15:18           ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 17:18             ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 17:48               ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 18:34                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:47                   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 19:20                     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 21:20                       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 21:27                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 10:18                   ` Kai Huang

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