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From: Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr>
To: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Matteo Croce <mcroce@microsoft.com>,
	kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] riscv: optimized memmove
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:13:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee1c316d-5bfd-4a5f-8e44-04a7c6f31b81@ics.forth.gr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbnZthTjiUArHIvq@xhacker>

On 1/31/24 07:25, Jisheng Zhang wrote:
> 
> I didn't have c99 spec in hand, but I found gcc explanations about
> restrict keyword from [1]:
> 
> "the restrict declaration promises that the code will not access that
> object in any other way--only through p."
> 
> So if there's overlap in memcpy, then it contradicts the restrict
> implication.
> 
> [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/c-intro-and-ref/manual/html_node/restrict-Pointers.html
> 
The union used in the code also contradicts this. BTW the restrict 
qualifier isn't used in kernel's lib/string.c nor in the current 
implementation 
(https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/riscv/include/asm/string.h#L16).

> And from the manual, if the memcpy users must ensure "The memory areas
> must not overlap." So I think all linux kernel's memcpy implementations(only copy
> fw and don't take overlap into consideration) are right.
> 
> I did see the alias-memcpy-as-memmove in some libc implementations, but
> this is not the style in current kernel's implementations.
> 
> Given current riscv asm implementation also doesn't do the alias and
> copy-fw only, and this series improves performance and doesn't introduce the
> Is it better to divide this into two steps: Firstly, merge this series
> if there's no obvious bug; secondly, do the alias as you suggested,
> since you have a basic implementation, you could even submit your patch
> ;) What do you think about this two steps solution?
> 

I still don't understand why you prefer undefined behavior over just 
aliasing memcpy to memmove. Anyway, do as you wish, I don't have time to 
work on this unfortunately. Feel free to use the code I shared for bw 
copy etc.

Regards,
Nick


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-28 11:10 [PATCH 0/3] riscv: optimize memcpy/memmove/memset Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-28 11:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] riscv: optimized memcpy Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-28 12:35   ` David Laight
2024-01-30 12:11   ` Nick Kossifidis
2024-01-28 11:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] riscv: optimized memmove Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-28 12:47   ` David Laight
2024-01-30 11:30     ` Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-30 11:51       ` David Laight
2024-01-30 11:39   ` Nick Kossifidis
2024-01-30 13:12     ` Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-30 16:52       ` Nick Kossifidis
2024-01-31  5:25         ` Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-31  9:13           ` Nick Kossifidis [this message]
2024-01-28 11:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] riscv: optimized memset Jisheng Zhang
2024-01-30 12:07   ` Nick Kossifidis
2024-01-30 13:25     ` Jisheng Zhang
2024-02-01 23:04     ` David Laight
2024-01-29 18:16 ` [PATCH 0/3] riscv: optimize memcpy/memmove/memset Conor Dooley
2024-01-30  2:28   ` Jisheng Zhang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-06-15  2:38 [PATCH 0/3] riscv: optimized mem* functions Matteo Croce
2021-06-15  2:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] riscv: optimized memmove Matteo Croce

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