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From: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/21] mm/hugetlb: Introduce a new config HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 11:31:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef564084-ea73-d579-9251-ec0440df2b48@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201109135215.GA4778@localhost.localdomain>

On 11/9/20 5:52 AM, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 10:10:55PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>> The purpose of introducing HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP is to configure
>> whether to enable the feature of freeing unused vmemmap associated
>> with HugeTLB pages. Now only support x86.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/x86/mm/init_64.c |  2 +-
>>  fs/Kconfig            | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>>  mm/bootmem_info.c     |  3 +--
>>  3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/init_64.c b/arch/x86/mm/init_64.c
>> index 0a45f062826e..0435bee2e172 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/mm/init_64.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/mm/init_64.c
>> @@ -1225,7 +1225,7 @@ static struct kcore_list kcore_vsyscall;
>>  
>>  static void __init register_page_bootmem_info(void)
>>  {
>> -#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
>> +#if defined(CONFIG_NUMA) || defined(CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP)
>>  	int i;
>>  
>>  	for_each_online_node(i)
>> diff --git a/fs/Kconfig b/fs/Kconfig
>> index 976e8b9033c4..21b8d39a9715 100644
>> --- a/fs/Kconfig
>> +++ b/fs/Kconfig
>> @@ -245,6 +245,22 @@ config HUGETLBFS
>>  config HUGETLB_PAGE
>>  	def_bool HUGETLBFS
>>  
>> +config HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP
>> +	bool "Free unused vmemmap associated with HugeTLB pages"
>> +	default y
>> +	depends on X86
>> +	depends on HUGETLB_PAGE
>> +	depends on SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>> +	depends on HAVE_BOOTMEM_INFO_NODE
>> +	help
>> +	  There are many struct page structures associated with each HugeTLB
>> +	  page. But we only use a few struct page structures. In this case,
>> +	  it wastes some memory. It is better to free the unused struct page
>> +	  structures to buddy system which can save some memory. For
>> +	  architectures that support it, say Y here.
>> +
>> +	  If unsure, say N.
> 
> I am not sure the above is useful for someone who needs to decide
> whether he needs/wants to enable this or not.
> I think the above fits better in a Documentation part.
> 
> I suck at this, but what about the following, or something along those
> lines? 
> 
> "
> When using SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP, the system can save up some memory
> from pre-allocated HugeTLB pages when they are not used.
> 6 pages per 2MB HugeTLB page and 4095 per 1GB HugeTLB page.
> When the pages are going to be used or freed up, the vmemmap
> array representing that range needs to be remapped again and
> the pages we discarded earlier need to be rellocated again.
> Therefore, this is a trade-off between saving memory and
> increasing time in allocation/free path.
> "
> 
> It would be also great to point out that this might be a
> trade-off between saving up memory and increasing the cost
> of certain operations on allocation/free path.
> That is why I mentioned it there.

Yes, this is somewhat a trade-off.

As a config option, this is something that would likely be decided by
distros.  I almost hate to suggest this, but is it something that an
end user would want to decide?  Is this something that perhaps should
be a boot/kernel command line option?

-- 
Mike Kravetz

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-10 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-08 14:10 [PATCH v3 00/21] Free some vmemmap pages of hugetlb page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] mm/memory_hotplug: Move bootmem info registration API to bootmem_info.c Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] mm/memory_hotplug: Move {get,put}_page_bootmem() " Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] mm/hugetlb: Introduce a new config HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP Muchun Song
2020-11-09 13:52   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-09 14:20     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-10 19:31     ` Mike Kravetz [this message]
2020-11-10 19:50       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-10 20:30         ` Mike Kravetz
2020-11-17 15:35         ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-11  3:28       ` Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] mm/hugetlb: Introduce nr_free_vmemmap_pages in the struct hstate Muchun Song
2020-11-09 16:48   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10  2:42     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-10 19:38       ` Mike Kravetz
2020-11-11  3:22         ` Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] mm/hugetlb: Introduce pgtable allocation/freeing helpers Muchun Song
2020-11-09 17:21   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10  3:49     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-10  5:42       ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10  6:08         ` Muchun Song
2020-11-10  6:33           ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10  7:10             ` Muchun Song
2020-11-11  0:47   ` Mike Kravetz
2020-11-11  3:41     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-13  0:35       ` Mike Kravetz
2020-11-13  1:02         ` Mike Kravetz
2020-11-13  4:18         ` Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] mm/bootmem_info: Introduce {free,prepare}_vmemmap_page() Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] mm/bootmem_info: Combine bootmem info and type into page->freelist Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] mm/vmemmap: Initialize page table lock for vmemmap Muchun Song
2020-11-09 18:11   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10  5:17     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] mm/hugetlb: Free the vmemmap pages associated with each hugetlb page Muchun Song
2020-11-09 18:51   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10  6:40     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-11-10  9:48       ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10 10:47         ` Muchun Song
2020-11-10 13:52           ` Oscar Salvador
2020-11-10 14:00             ` Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] mm/hugetlb: Defer freeing of hugetlb pages Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] mm/hugetlb: Allocate the vmemmap pages associated with each hugetlb page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] mm/hugetlb: Introduce remap_huge_page_pmd_vmemmap helper Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] mm/hugetlb: Use PG_slab to indicate split pmd Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] mm/hugetlb: Support freeing vmemmap pages of gigantic page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] mm/hugetlb: Add a BUILD_BUG_ON to check if struct page size is a power of two Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] mm/hugetlb: Set the PageHWPoison to the raw error page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] mm/hugetlb: Flush work when dissolving hugetlb page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] mm/hugetlb: Add a kernel parameter hugetlb_free_vmemmap Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] mm/hugetlb: Merge pte to huge pmd only for gigantic page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] mm/hugetlb: Gather discrete indexes of tail page Muchun Song
2020-11-08 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] mm/hugetlb: Add BUILD_BUG_ON to catch invalid usage of tail struct page Muchun Song
2020-11-10 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Free some vmemmap pages of hugetlb page Mike Kravetz
2020-11-11  3:21   ` [External] " Muchun Song

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