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From: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Serguei Sagalovitch" <serguei.sagalovitch@amd.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
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	"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
	"Bridgman, John" <John.Bridgman@amd.com>,
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	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Sander, Ben" <ben.sander@amd.com>,
	"Suthikulpanit, Suravee" <Suravee.Suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	"Blinzer, Paul" <Paul.Blinzer@amd.com>,
	"Linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <Linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Max Gurtovoy" <maxg@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: Enabling peer to peer device transactions for PCIe devices
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:20:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3bb8372-ae2e-2f5e-5505-4ecaddbfb16e@deltatee.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161128165751.GB28381@obsidianresearch.com>



On 28/11/16 09:57 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On PeerDirect, we have some kind of a middle-ground solution for pinning
>> GPU memory. We create a non-ODP MR pointing to VRAM but rely on
>> user-space and the GPU not to migrate it. If they do, the MR gets
>> destroyed immediately.
> 
> That sounds horrible. How can that possibly work? What if the MR is
> being used when the GPU decides to migrate? I would not support that
> upstream without a lot more explanation..

Yup, this was our experience when playing around with PeerDirect. There
was nothing we could do if the GPU decided to invalidate the P2P
mapping. It just meant the application would fail or need complicated
logic to detect this and redo just about everything. And given that it
was a reasonably rare occurrence during development it probably means
not a lot of applications will be developed to handle it and most would
end up being randomly broken in environments with memory pressure.

Logan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-28 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-21 20:36 Enabling peer to peer device transactions for PCIe devices Deucher, Alexander
2016-11-22 18:11 ` Dan Williams
     [not found]   ` <75a1f44f-c495-7d1e-7e1c-17e89555edba@amd.com>
2016-11-22 20:01     ` Dan Williams
2016-11-22 20:10       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-22 20:24         ` Dan Williams
2016-11-22 20:35         ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-22 21:03           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-22 21:21             ` Dan Williams
2016-11-22 22:21               ` Sagalovitch, Serguei
2016-11-23  7:49               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:51                 ` Christian König
2016-11-23 19:27                   ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-23 17:03                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-11-23 17:13     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-23 17:27       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-11-23 18:40         ` Dan Williams
2016-11-23 19:12           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-23 19:24             ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-23 19:06         ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-23 19:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-23 19:14         ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-23 19:32           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <c2c88376-5ba7-37d1-4d3e-592383ebb00a@amd.com>
2016-11-23 20:33               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-23 21:11                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-23 21:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-23 22:42                     ` Dan Williams
2016-11-23 23:25                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-24  9:45                         ` Christian König
2016-11-24 16:26                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-24 17:00                             ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-24 17:55                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-25 13:06                             ` Christian König
2016-11-25 16:45                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-25 17:20                                 ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-25 20:26                                   ` Felix Kuehling
2016-11-25 20:48                                     ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-24  0:40                     ` Sagalovitch, Serguei
2016-11-24 16:24                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-24  1:25                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-24 16:42                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-24 18:11                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-25  7:58                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-25 19:41                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-25 17:59                           ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-25 13:22                         ` Christian König
2016-11-25 17:16                           ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-25 19:34                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-25 19:49                               ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-25 20:19                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-25 23:41                               ` Alex Deucher
2016-11-25 19:32                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-25 20:40                             ` Christian König
2016-11-25 20:51                               ` Felix Kuehling
2016-11-25 21:18                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-27  8:16                             ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-27 14:02                             ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-27 14:07                               ` Christian König
2016-11-28  5:31                                 ` zhoucm1
2016-11-28 14:48                               ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-28 18:36                                 ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-28 16:57                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-28 18:19                                 ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-28 19:02                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-30 10:45                                     ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-30 16:23                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-30 17:28                                         ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-12-04  7:33                                           ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-30 18:01                                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-12-04  7:42                                           ` Haggai Eran
2016-12-04 13:06                                             ` Stephen Bates
2016-12-04 13:23                                             ` Stephen Bates
2016-12-05 17:18                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 17:40                                                 ` Dan Williams
2016-12-05 18:02                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 18:08                                                     ` Dan Williams
2016-12-05 18:39                                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 18:48                                                         ` Dan Williams
2016-12-05 19:14                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 19:27                                                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 19:46                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 19:59                                                                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-12-05 20:06                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-06  8:06                                                           ` Stephen Bates
2016-12-06 16:38                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-12-06 16:51                                                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-12-06 17:28                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-12-06 21:47                                                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-12-06 22:02                                                                     ` Dan Williams
2016-12-06 17:12                                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-04  7:53                                         ` Haggai Eran
2016-11-30 17:10                                       ` Deucher, Alexander
2016-11-28 18:20                                 ` Logan Gunthorpe [this message]
2016-11-28 19:35                                   ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-28 21:36                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2016-11-28 21:55                                       ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2016-11-28 22:24                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 18:39 ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-05 19:01   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 19:54     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-05 20:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 20:19         ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-05 22:42           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 23:23             ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-06  0:30               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-06  0:41                 ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2017-01-06  1:58                 ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-06 16:56                   ` Serguei Sagalovitch
2017-01-06 17:37                     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-06 18:26                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-06 19:12                         ` Deucher, Alexander
2017-01-06 22:10                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-01-12  4:54                           ` Stephen Bates
2017-01-12 15:11                             ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-12 17:17                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-13 13:04                               ` Christian König
2017-01-12 22:35                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-01-06 15:08     ` Henrique Almeida
2017-10-20 12:36 ` Ludwig Petrosyan
2017-10-20 15:48   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-10-22  6:13     ` Petrosyan, Ludwig
2017-10-22 17:19       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-10-23 16:08       ` David Laight
2017-10-23 22:04         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-10-24  5:58           ` Petrosyan, Ludwig
2017-10-24 14:58             ` David Laight
2017-10-26 13:28               ` Petrosyan, Ludwig

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