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From: michael.christie@oracle.com
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux@leemhuis.info, nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, mst@redhat.com,
	sgarzare@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	brauner@kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can vhost translate to io_uring?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 01:25:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f65f9809-7f52-5bb1-7e78-f22b813500c2@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt12oa25.fsf_-_@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

On 6/14/23 1:02 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> I am sad my idea for simplifying things did not work out.
> 
> 
> Let's try an even bigger idea to reduce maintenance and simplify things.
> 
> Could vhost depend on io_uring?
> 
> Could vhost just be a translation layer of existing vhost requests to
> io_uring requests?
> 
> At a quick glance it looks like io_uring already supports the
> functionality that vhost supports (which I think is networking and
> scsi).
> 
> If vhost could become a translation layer that would allow removing
> the vhost worker and PF_USER_WORKER could be removed completely,
> leaving only PF_IO_WORKER.
> 
> 
> I suggest this because a significant vhost change is needed because in

It would be nice if the vhost layer could use the io-wq code as sort of
generic worker. I can look into what that would take if Jens is ok
with that type of thing.

For vhost, I just submitted a patch to the vhost layer that allow us to
switch out the vhost worker thread when IO is running:

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2023-June/067246.html

After that patch, I just need to modify vhost_worker/vhost_task_fn so
when get_signal returns true we set the worker to NULL and do a synchronize_rcu.
Then I just need to modify vhost-scsi so it detects when the worker is NULL
and modify the flush code so it handles work that didn't get to run.



> the long term the hacks in exec and coredump are not a good idea.  Which
> means something like my failed "[PATCH v3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD
> to fix freezer/ps regression".
> 
> If we have to go to all of the trouble of reworking things it why can't
> we just make io_uring do all of the work?
> 
> Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-14  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-01 18:32 [PATCH 1/1] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression Mike Christie
2023-06-01 19:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-02  0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-02 14:34 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-06-02 19:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-03  3:44   ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-05 13:26     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-03  4:15   ` [CFT][PATCH v3] " Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-04  3:28     ` michael.christie
2023-06-05 15:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-05 15:46         ` Mike Christie
2023-06-06 12:16           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-06 15:57             ` Mike Christie
2023-06-06 19:39               ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-06 20:38                 ` Mike Christie
2023-06-14  6:02                   ` Can vhost translate to io_uring? Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-14  6:25                     ` michael.christie [this message]
2023-06-14 14:30                       ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-14 17:59                       ` Mike Christie
2023-06-14 14:20                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-14 15:02                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-11 20:27                 ` [CFT][PATCH v3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-14 17:08                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-05 12:38     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-05 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov

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