From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Bring OOM notifier callbacks to outside of OOM killer.
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:21:21 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6e65320-d8d3-f1ff-0346-13d1446c2675@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180620115531.GL13685@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 2018/06/20 20:55, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 20-06-18 20:20:38, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>> Sleeping with oom_lock held can cause AB-BA lockup bug because
>> __alloc_pages_may_oom() does not wait for oom_lock. Since
>> blocking_notifier_call_chain() in out_of_memory() might sleep, sleeping
>> with oom_lock held is currently an unavoidable problem.
>
> Could you be more specific about the potential deadlock? Sleeping while
> holding oom lock is certainly not nice but I do not see how that would
> result in a deadlock assuming that the sleeping context doesn't sleep on
> the memory allocation obviously.
"A" is "owns oom_lock" and "B" is "owns CPU resources". It was demonstrated
at "mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held." proposal.
But since you don't accept preserving the short sleep which is a heuristic for
reducing the possibility of AB-BA lockup, the only way we would accept will be
wait for the owner of oom_lock (e.g. by s/mutex_trylock/mutex_lock/ or whatever)
which is free of heuristic and free of AB-BA lockup.
>
>> As a preparation for not to sleep with oom_lock held, this patch brings
>> OOM notifier callbacks to outside of OOM killer, with two small behavior
>> changes explained below.
>
> Can we just eliminate this ugliness and remove it altogether? We do not
> have that many notifiers. Is there anything fundamental that would
> prevent us from moving them to shrinkers instead?
>
For long term, it would be possible. But not within this patch. For example,
I think that virtio_balloon wants to release memory only when we have no
choice but OOM kill. If virtio_balloon trivially releases memory, it will
increase the risk of killing the entire guest by OOM-killer from the host
side.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-20 12:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-20 11:20 [PATCH] mm,oom: Bring OOM notifier callbacks to outside of OOM killer Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-20 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 12:21 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-06-20 13:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 13:03 ` peter enderborg
2018-06-25 13:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 14:02 ` peter enderborg
2018-06-25 14:04 ` peter enderborg
2018-06-25 14:12 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 22:36 ` David Rientjes
2018-06-21 7:31 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-21 11:27 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-21 12:05 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-26 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 20:10 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-26 23:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27 10:52 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-27 14:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27 7:22 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 14:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-28 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-28 21:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-29 9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 12:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-29 13:26 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-30 17:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-02 12:00 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-03 7:24 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-06 5:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-06 12:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-29 14:35 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-30 17:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
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