linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Bring OOM notifier callbacks to outside of OOM killer.
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:21:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6e65320-d8d3-f1ff-0346-13d1446c2675@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180620115531.GL13685@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2018/06/20 20:55, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 20-06-18 20:20:38, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>> Sleeping with oom_lock held can cause AB-BA lockup bug because
>> __alloc_pages_may_oom() does not wait for oom_lock. Since
>> blocking_notifier_call_chain() in out_of_memory() might sleep, sleeping
>> with oom_lock held is currently an unavoidable problem.
> 
> Could you be more specific about the potential deadlock? Sleeping while
> holding oom lock is certainly not nice but I do not see how that would
> result in a deadlock assuming that the sleeping context doesn't sleep on
> the memory allocation obviously.

"A" is "owns oom_lock" and "B" is "owns CPU resources". It was demonstrated
at "mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held." proposal.

But since you don't accept preserving the short sleep which is a heuristic for
reducing the possibility of AB-BA lockup, the only way we would accept will be
wait for the owner of oom_lock (e.g. by s/mutex_trylock/mutex_lock/ or whatever)
which is free of heuristic and free of AB-BA lockup.

> 
>> As a preparation for not to sleep with oom_lock held, this patch brings
>> OOM notifier callbacks to outside of OOM killer, with two small behavior
>> changes explained below.
> 
> Can we just eliminate this ugliness and remove it altogether? We do not
> have that many notifiers. Is there anything fundamental that would
> prevent us from moving them to shrinkers instead?
> 

For long term, it would be possible. But not within this patch. For example,
I think that virtio_balloon wants to release memory only when we have no
choice but OOM kill. If virtio_balloon trivially releases memory, it will
increase the risk of killing the entire guest by OOM-killer from the host
side.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-20 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-20 11:20 [PATCH] mm,oom: Bring OOM notifier callbacks to outside of OOM killer Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-20 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 12:21   ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-06-20 13:07     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 13:03   ` peter enderborg
2018-06-25 13:07     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 14:02       ` peter enderborg
2018-06-25 14:04       ` peter enderborg
2018-06-25 14:12         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 22:36 ` David Rientjes
2018-06-21  7:31   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-21 11:27     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-21 12:05       ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-26 17:03       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 20:10         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-26 23:50           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27 10:52             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-27 14:28               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27  7:22         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 14:31           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-28 11:39             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-28 21:31               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-29  9:04                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 12:52                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-29 13:26                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-30 17:05                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-02 12:00                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 21:37                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-03  7:24                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03 16:01                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-06  5:39                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-06 12:22                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-29 14:35                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-30 17:19                       ` Paul E. McKenney

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=f6e65320-d8d3-f1ff-0346-13d1446c2675@i-love.sakura.ne.jp \
    --to=penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).