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From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Robert Richter <rrichter@marvell.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"linux-edac@vger.kernel.org" <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/24] EDAC, ghes: Extract numa node information for each dimm
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 18:05:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f878201f-f8fd-0f2a-5072-ba60c64eefaf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190624150758.6695-16-rrichter@marvell.com>

Hi Robert,

On 24/06/2019 16:09, Robert Richter wrote:
> In a later patch we want to have one mc device per node. This patch
> extracts the numa node information for each dimm. This is done by
> collecting the physical address ranges from the DMI table (Memory
> Array Mapped Address - Type 19 of SMBIOS spec). The node information
> for a physical address is already know to a numa aware system (e.g. by
> using the ACPI _PXM method or the ACPI SRAT table), so based on the PA
> we can assign the node id to the dimms.

I really don't like the way this depends on the rest of the kernel's NUMA support.
mm's policies around the placement of data change with these settings, that shouldn't
matter here. Reporting physical errors shouldn't be influenced by mm's placement policy.

pfn_valid() is a sore subject on arm64, it will return false for random pages that the
firmware is using, or wrote data to with unusual memory attributes. Depending on it makes
this code fragile...


> A fallback that disables numa is implemented in case the node
> information is inconsistent.

... which is why you need a fallback.

All this makes it difficult to explain why this things view of memory is as it is.
Making the RAS/edac code unpredictable like this is a hard sell.

You need to squint through Kconfig, SRAT and the UEFI memory map.
(due to pfn_valid(): the behaviour here can change over a reboot)


Can we 'just' use the type-16 handle to group the DIMMs?

As an illustration:
http://www.linux-arm.org/git?p=linux-jm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/edac_ghes_2level_dimms/v0

This reflects the SMBIOS tables on my NUMA desktop, and doesn't depend on any of the
above. I'd be interested to know what is missing from this approach.

(which numa node? I don't think we need to know the mapping of mcX<->nid up front. We can
find it from the faulting physical address when we get an error report).


N.B, your mail is still arriving base64 encoded. It looks like this:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-edac/20190624150758.6695-16-rrichter@marvell.com/raw

Lei Wang found:
> Ah I found if without explicit "--transfer-encoding=7bit" when do "git
> send-mail", my ubuntu box sent out base64 by default.

(but his mail didn't get archived for some reason)


Thanks,

James

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-24 15:08 [PATCH v2 00/24] EDAC, mc, ghes: Fixes and updates to improve memory error reporting Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 01/24] EDAC, mc: Fix grain_bits calculation Robert Richter
2019-08-03 10:08   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 02/24] EDAC, ghes: Fix grain calculation Robert Richter
2019-08-09 13:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-12  6:42     ` Robert Richter
2019-08-12  7:32       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-12 12:05         ` Robert Richter
2019-08-12 12:38           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 03/24] EDAC, ghes: Remove pvt->detail_location string Robert Richter
2019-08-02 17:04   ` James Morse
2019-08-07  9:00     ` Robert Richter
2019-08-13  8:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 04/24] EDAC, ghes: Unify trace_mc_event() code with edac_mc driver Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 05/24] EDAC, mc: Fix and improve sysfs init functions Robert Richter
2019-08-13  8:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 06/24] EDAC: Kill EDAC_DIMM_PTR() macro Robert Richter
2019-08-13 14:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-27 12:20     ` Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 07/24] EDAC: Kill EDAC_DIMM_OFF() macro Robert Richter
2019-08-14 14:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 08/24] EDAC: Introduce mci_for_each_dimm() iterator Robert Richter
2019-08-14 15:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-28  8:18     ` Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 09/24] EDAC, mc: Cleanup _edac_mc_free() code Robert Richter
2019-08-14 16:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 10/24] EDAC, mc: Remove per layer counters Robert Richter
2019-08-16  9:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 11/24] EDAC, mc: Rework edac_raw_mc_handle_error() to use struct dimm_info Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 12/24] EDAC, ghes: Use standard kernel macros for page calculations Robert Richter
2019-08-02 17:04   ` James Morse
2019-08-07  9:52     ` Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 13/24] EDAC, ghes: Add support for legacy API counters Robert Richter
2019-08-16  9:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-30  9:35     ` Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 14/24] EDAC, ghes: Rework memory hierarchy detection Robert Richter
2019-08-20  8:56   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 15/24] EDAC, ghes: Extract numa node information for each dimm Robert Richter
2019-08-02 17:05   ` James Morse [this message]
2019-08-09 13:09     ` Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 16/24] EDAC, ghes: Moving code around ghes_edac_register() Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 17/24] EDAC, ghes: Create one memory controller device per node Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 18/24] EDAC, ghes: Fill sysfs with the DMI DIMM label information Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 19/24] EDAC, mc: Introduce edac_mc_alloc_by_dimm() for per dimm allocation Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 20/24] EDAC, ghes: Identify dimm by node, card, module and handle Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 21/24] EDAC, ghes: Enable per-layer reporting based on card/module Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 22/24] EDAC, ghes: Move struct member smbios_handle to struct ghes_dimm_info Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 23/24] EDAC, Documentation: Describe CPER module definition and DIMM ranks Robert Richter
2019-06-24 15:09 ` [PATCH v2 24/24] EDAC, ghes: Disable legacy API for ARM64 Robert Richter
2019-06-26  9:33   ` James Morse
2019-06-26 10:11     ` Robert Richter
2019-08-02  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 00/24] EDAC, mc, ghes: Fixes and updates to improve memory error reporting Robert Richter

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