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From: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@kernel.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-block@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [bug report] dead loop in generic_perform_write() //Re: [PATCH v7 07/12] iov_iter: Convert iterate*() to inline funcs
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 17:37:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f914a48b-741c-e3fe-c971-510a07eefb91@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiBJRgA3iNqihR7uuft=5rog425X_b3uvgroG3fBhktwQ@mail.gmail.com>



在 2024/3/2 10:59, Linus Torvalds 写道:
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 09:32, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> One option might be to make a failed memcpy_from_iter_mc() set another
>> flag in the iter, and then make fault_in_iov_iter_readable() test that
>> flag and return 'len' if that flag is set.
>>
>> Something like that (wild handwaving) should get the right error handling.
>>
>> The simpler alternative is maybe something like the attached.
>> COMPLETELY UNTESTED. Maybe I've confused myself with all the different
>> indiraction mazes in the iov_iter code.
> 
> Actually, I think the right model is to get rid of that horrendous
> .copy_mc field entirely.
> 
> We only have one single place that uses it - that nasty core dumping
> code. And that code is *not* performance critical.
> 
> And not only isn't it performance-critical, it already does all the
> core dumping one page at a time because it doesn't want to write pages
> that were never mapped into user space.
> 
> So what we can do is
> 
>   (a) make the core dumping code *copy* the page to a good location
> with copy_mc_to_kernel() first
> 
>   (b) remove this horrendous .copy_mc crap entirely from iov_iter

I think this solution has two impacts:
1. Although it is not a performance-critical path, the CPU usage may be
affected by one more memory copy in some large-memory applications.
2. If a hardware memory error occurs in "good location" and the
".copy_mc" is removed, the kernel will panic.

I would prefer to use the previous solution(modify the implementation of
memcpy_from_iter_mc()).

Thanks,
Tong.

> 
> This is slightly complicated by the fact that copy_mc_to_kernel() may
> not even exist, and architectures that don't have it don't want the
> silly extra copy. So we need to abstract the "copy to temporary page"
> code a bit. But that's probably a good thing anyway in that it forces
> us to have nice interfaces.
> 
> End result: something like the attached.
> 
> AGAIN: THIS IS ENTIRELY UNTESTED.
> 
> But hey, so was clearly all the .copy_mc code too that this removes, so...
> 
>                 Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-02  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-25 12:02 [PATCH v7 00/12] iov_iter: Convert the iterator macros into inline funcs David Howells
2023-09-25 12:02 ` [PATCH v7 01/12] iov_iter: Remove last_offset from iov_iter as it was for ITER_PIPE David Howells
2023-09-25 12:02 ` [PATCH v7 02/12] iov_iter, x86: Be consistent about the __user tag on copy_mc_to_user() David Howells
2023-09-28 14:47   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 03/12] sound: Fix snd_pcm_readv()/writev() to use iov access functions David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 04/12] infiniband: Use user_backed_iter() to see if iterator is UBUF/IOVEC David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 05/12] iov_iter: Renumber ITER_* constants David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 06/12] iov_iter: Derive user-backedness from the iterator type David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 07/12] iov_iter: Convert iterate*() to inline funcs David Howells
2024-02-18  3:13   ` [bug report] dead loop in generic_perform_write() //Re: " Tong Tiangen
2024-02-27 12:43     ` Tong Tiangen
2024-02-28 21:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-28 22:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-29  8:13         ` Tong Tiangen
2024-02-29 17:32           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-01  2:13             ` Tong Tiangen
2024-03-02  2:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-02  9:37               ` Tong Tiangen [this message]
2024-03-02 18:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-02 18:11                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-04  8:45                   ` Tong Tiangen
2024-03-04 11:56             ` David Howells
2024-03-04 12:15               ` Tong Tiangen
2024-03-04 18:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-05  6:57                 ` Tong Tiangen
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 08/12] iov_iter: Don't deal with iter->copy_mc in memcpy_from_iter_mc() David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 09/12] iov_iter, net: Move csum_and_copy_to/from_iter() to net/ David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 10/12] iov_iter, net: Fold in csum_and_memcpy() David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 11/12] iov_iter, net: Merge csum_and_copy_from_iter{,_full}() together David Howells
2023-09-25 12:03 ` [PATCH v7 12/12] iov_iter, net: Move hash_and_copy_to_iter() to net/ David Howells
2023-09-25 12:34 ` [PATCH v7 00/12] iov_iter: Convert the iterator macros into inline funcs Christian Brauner
2023-10-02  9:25 ` [PATCH v7 08/12] iov_iter: Don't deal with iter->copy_mc in memcpy_from_iter_mc() David Howells
2023-10-07  4:32   ` [PATCH next] iov_iter: fix copy_page_from_iter_atomic() Hugh Dickins
2023-10-07  7:29   ` David Howells
2023-10-09  7:36     ` Christian Brauner

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