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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: peter.puhov@linaro.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, robert.foley@linaro.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: update_pick_idlest() Select group with lowest group_util when idle_cpus are equal
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 11:50:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jhjo8pidl01.mognet@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200616164801.18644-1-peter.puhov@linaro.org>


On 16/06/20 17:48, peter.puhov@linaro.org wrote:
> From: Peter Puhov <peter.puhov@linaro.org>
> We tested this patch with following benchmarks:
>   perf bench -f simple sched pipe -l 4000000
>   perf bench -f simple sched messaging -l 30000
>   perf bench -f simple  mem memset -s 3GB -l 15 -f default
>   perf bench -f simple futex wake -s -t 640 -w 1
>   sysbench cpu --threads=8 --cpu-max-prime=10000 run
>   sysbench memory --memory-access-mode=rnd --threads=8 run
>   sysbench threads --threads=8 run
>   sysbench mutex --mutex-num=1 --threads=8 run
>   hackbench --loops 20000
>   hackbench --pipe --threads --loops 20000
>   hackbench --pipe --threads --loops 20000 --datasize 4096
>
> and found some performance improvements in:
>   sysbench threads
>   sysbench mutex
>   perf bench futex wake
> and no regressions in others.
>

One nitpick for the results of those: condensing them in a table form would
make them more reader-friendly. Perhaps something like:

| Benchmark        | Metric   | Lower is better? | BASELINE | SERIES | DELTA |
|------------------+----------+------------------+----------+--------+-------|
| Sysbench threads | # events | No               |    45526 |  56567 |  +24% |
| Sysbench mutex   | ...      |                  |          |        |       |

If you want to include more stats for each benchmark, you could have one table
per (e.g. see [1]) - it'd still be a more readable form (or so I believe).

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200206191957.12325-1-valentin.schneider@arm.com/

> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 8 +++++++-
>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 02f323b85b6d..abcbdf80ee75 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -8662,8 +8662,14 @@ static bool update_pick_idlest(struct sched_group *idlest,
>
>       case group_has_spare:
>               /* Select group with most idle CPUs */
> -		if (idlest_sgs->idle_cpus >= sgs->idle_cpus)
> +		if (idlest_sgs->idle_cpus > sgs->idle_cpus)
>                       return false;
> +
> +		/* Select group with lowest group_util */
> +		if (idlest_sgs->idle_cpus == sgs->idle_cpus &&
> +			idlest_sgs->group_util <= sgs->group_util)
> +			return false;
> +
>               break;
>       }

update_sd_pick_busiest() uses the group's nr_running instead. You mention
in the changelog that using nr_running is a possible alternative, did you
try benchmarking that and seeing how it compares to using group_util?

I think it would be nice to keep pick_busiest() and pick_idlest() aligned
wherever possible/sensible.

Also, there can be cases where one group has a few "big" tasks and another
has a handful more "small" tasks. Say something like

  sgs_a->group_util = U
  sgs_a->sum_nr_running = N

  sgs_b->group_util = U*4/3
  sgs_b->sum_nr_running = N*2/3

  (sgs_b has more util per task, i.e. bigger tasks on average)

Given that we're in the 'group_has_spare' case, I would think picking the
group with the lesser amount of running tasks would make sense. Though I
guess you can find pathological cases where the util per task difference is
huge and we should look at util first...

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-17 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-16 16:48 [PATCH] sched/fair: update_pick_idlest() Select group with lowest group_util when idle_cpus are equal peter.puhov
2020-06-17 10:50 ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-06-17 14:52   ` Peter Puhov
2020-07-02  9:27     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-07-02 13:20       ` Mel Gorman
2020-07-02 13:45         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-07-01  9:19 ` [sched/fair] 0b9730e694: vm-scalability.throughput 7.7% improvement kernel test robot

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