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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Maciej Rutecki <maciej.rutecki@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysfs:  Optionally count subdirectories to support buggy applications
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:44:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m139auxjfz.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120201222441.GB2333@kroah.com> (Greg Kroah-Hartman's message of "Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:24:41 -0800")

Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:21:59PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> 
>> lm_sensors and possibly other applications get confused if all sysfs
>> directories return nlink == 1.  The lm_sensors code that got confused
>> was just wrong and a fixed version of lm_sensors should be released
>> shortly.
>> 
>> There may be other applications that have problems with sysfs return
>> nlink == 1 for directories.  To allow people to continue to use old
>> versions of userspace with new kernels add to sysfs a compile time
>> option to maintain mostly precise directory counts for those people who
>> don't mind the cost.
>> 
>> I have moved where we keep nlink in sysfs_dirent as compared to previous
>> versions of subdirectory counting to a location that packs better.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>> ---
>>  fs/sysfs/Kconfig |   15 +++++++++++++++
>>  fs/sysfs/dir.c   |    8 ++++++++
>>  fs/sysfs/inode.c |    2 ++
>>  fs/sysfs/sysfs.h |   38 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  4 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/fs/sysfs/Kconfig b/fs/sysfs/Kconfig
>> index 8c41fea..9b403e9 100644
>> --- a/fs/sysfs/Kconfig
>> +++ b/fs/sysfs/Kconfig
>> @@ -21,3 +21,18 @@ config SYSFS
>>  	example, "root=03:01" for /dev/hda1.
>>  
>>  	Designers of embedded systems may wish to say N here to conserve space.
>> +
>> +config SYSFS_COUNT_LINKS
>> +	bool "sysfs count subdirectoires to support buggy applications"
>> +	default n
>
> As we don't want to break things, this should be default y, right?

The new behavior is backwards compatible.  What the new behavior is not
is bug compatible.  So nothing *should* break.

Furthermore the breaking we have seen so far is limited to just
lm_sensors.  That is exactly one program that is not a server failing to
start.  That seems pretty minor in the worst case.

So I really don't expect anyone who ships 3.4 to enable this option.

I have written the option solely so that in case my assessment turns out
to be wrong there is already a tested solution.  I have been through the
pain of not being able to upgrade/test a new kernel because of a
backwards incompatible change and it can be very unpleasant.

> Also, should we list this in the feature_removal list as well so that we
> can get rid of it in a year or so?

Good idea.  I don't know if anyone actually reads feature removal but it
is good to serve notice.  I will cook up a patch for that.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-01 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30 21:56 sysfs regression: wrong link counts Jiri Slaby
2012-01-30 22:06 ` Greg KH
2012-01-30 22:10   ` Alan Cox
2012-01-30 22:27     ` Greg KH
2012-01-30 22:43       ` Al Viro
2012-01-30 22:56         ` Al Viro
2012-01-31  1:27       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 10:48         ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 12:44           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 16:45             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-31 19:18               ` Al Viro
2012-02-01  5:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 22:21                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Optionally count subdirectories to support buggy applications Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 22:24                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-02-01 22:44                     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2012-02-01 22:49                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-02-01 22:31                   ` Dave Jones
2012-02-01 22:35                   ` Jiri Slaby
2012-02-01 23:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-01 23:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02  1:22                       ` Al Viro
2012-02-02 21:24                         ` [RFC] killing boilerplate checks in ->link/->mkdir/->rename Al Viro
2012-02-02 23:46                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-03  1:16                             ` Al Viro
2012-02-03  1:45                               ` Al Viro
2012-02-03  2:00                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-03 14:57                               ` Chris Mason
2012-02-03 17:08                               ` Al Viro
2012-02-03 19:34                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06  8:50                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06 13:56                                   ` Al Viro
2012-02-06 17:05                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06 17:11                                       ` Al Viro
2012-02-07  7:21                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06 22:49                               ` Dave Chinner
2012-02-03  8:25                           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-02-03 17:03                             ` Al Viro
2012-02-04  7:42                               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-03-05 13:30                       ` [PATCH] sysfs: Optionally count subdirectories to support buggy applications Jiri Slaby
2012-03-05 16:09                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-03-05 16:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-08 21:05                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-03-08 22:18                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 23:40                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-08 21:28                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 21:34                           ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Compact sysfs_dirent s_flags into a byte Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 21:36                             ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Maintain usable nlink directory counts Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 21:37                               ` [PATCH 3/3] sysfs: Remove SYSFS_FLAG_REMOVED and use sd->s_nlink == 0 instead Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-09  3:40                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-08 22:28                             ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Compact sysfs_dirent s_flags into a byte Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-03-09  2:49                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31  3:45     ` sysfs regression: wrong link counts Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 11:54       ` Alan Cox
2012-01-30 22:52 ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 10:41   ` network regression: cannot rename netdev twice Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 10:52     ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 11:00       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 11:13         ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 11:17           ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 11:58             ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 14:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 14:40                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Update the name hash when renaming sysfs entries Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 14:41                   ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 14:55                   ` Greg KH
2012-02-04  2:14       ` network regression: cannot rename netdev twice Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-02-06 20:03         ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-08  2:00           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-02-08  3:50             ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-08  6:42               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-02-08 10:57                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-08 20:06                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-02-08 20:27                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-08 23:48                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31  1:32 ` sysfs regression: wrong link counts Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 18:29 ` Maciej Rutecki

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