From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Tomas Carnecky <tom@dbservice.com>
Cc: Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>,
Scott Preece <sepreece@gmail.com>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
James Porter <jameslporter@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Binary Drivers
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:32:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ac1hng62.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <458ADC37.9070608@dbservice.com> (Tomas Carnecky's message of "Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:10:47 +0000")
Tomas Carnecky <tom@dbservice.com> writes:
> The problem is, nobody wants to decide what to do with closed source software in
> Linux. I don't care how you decide, for or against binary drivers (well,
> actually I do but my opinion doesn't matter), just decide already!
The decision from Linus was simple. Linus will not merge a patch that
attempts to prevent this from at a technical level. No one has made
any exceptions to the GPL to say that GPL incompatible drivers are
allowed. Therefore on a legal level kernel drivers with GPL
incompatible drivers are as illegal as the derivative works clause in
copyright law will allow us to make them. If you want something
firmer you can go talk to your appropriate government about taking the
fuzz out of what is a derivative work.
As a practical matter people not releasing source aren't playing well with us
so we are not likely to play well with them.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-21 20:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-15 21:20 Binary Drivers James Porter
2006-12-15 21:59 ` Alan
2006-12-15 22:00 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-12-15 22:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-12-16 1:57 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-16 18:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 16:33 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 17:43 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-21 19:10 ` Tomas Carnecky
[not found] ` <f0e2c5070612211120wa6e3402p2ffb6e1d579a485a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-21 19:42 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-21 22:36 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-21 20:32 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-12-21 20:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 22:02 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 20:50 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-21 20:58 ` David Lang
2006-12-21 21:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-21 22:12 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 23:20 ` Martin Mares
2006-12-22 0:38 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 9:47 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-23 1:04 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-16 3:56 ` jdow
2006-12-16 4:59 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-16 8:12 ` Horses and donkeys [Re: Binary Drivers] Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 18:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Binary Drivers Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16 8:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 9:07 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-17 12:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-18 21:34 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Hannu Savolainen
2006-12-19 0:10 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-12-20 22:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-12-21 0:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-12-21 10:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-21 18:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 11:59 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-24 6:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-31 12:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-31 13:03 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-31 17:09 ` Alan
2007-01-02 2:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 4:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 5:06 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 6:30 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 9:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 12:06 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 19:23 ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-03 8:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 12:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-02 15:15 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 15:18 ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-02 16:33 ` James Simmons
2007-01-02 17:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 20:20 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 19:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-01-02 20:01 ` OT Coffee (was " Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 20:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-01-02 23:01 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03 5:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-04 0:50 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 21:11 ` Neil Brown
2007-01-02 22:26 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-02 19:04 ` [OT] Hot coffee (was: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)) Steven Rostedt
2007-01-02 10:40 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Alan
2006-12-18 9:51 ` Binary Drivers Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] <7ssWL-8rd-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <7sE1N-2Y4-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <7t39Q-Ru-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-12-21 12:33 ` Nikolaos D. Bougalis
2006-12-21 21:15 Niklas Steinkamp
2006-12-22 19:22 ` Rok Markovic
2006-12-22 22:00 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-22 22:14 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-23 7:19 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-23 23:11 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-24 6:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-24 13:31 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-24 17:33 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-24 19:27 ` James C Georgas
2006-12-24 21:05 ` Rok Markovic
2006-12-25 0:09 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-24 20:20 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-25 0:30 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-26 0:20 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-26 2:49 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-26 6:31 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-26 19:20 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-26 19:53 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-27 1:20 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-28 13:32 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <fa.a8+7qGNMZNO6YbgTojLj7poBcEU@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.whH2sDigxYlZmzC0pHJ6ew9w3Is@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.YLpcIfSTbYXcChK98VmCgG/OEAI@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.m5y0sm7/G8Fnz1bRfMDgwNw+YI4@ifi.uio.no>
2006-12-22 21:27 ` Robert Hancock
2006-12-22 23:15 ` Nikolaos D. Bougalis
2006-12-26 11:13 Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 11:33 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-26 14:04 ` Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 11:20 Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 13:28 ` James C Georgas
2006-12-26 13:57 ` Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 16:37 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-28 8:59 ` Rok Markovic
2006-12-28 9:07 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-28 22:32 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-28 22:34 ` David Lang
2006-12-26 19:12 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-26 23:37 ` Horst H. von Brand
[not found] <28wj.2xb.21@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <7wu47-3dV-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-12-27 11:55 ` Nikolaos D. Bougalis
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