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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] fs, proc: Introduce /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/children entry v8
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:11:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1r4yoedkm.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F1F576A.9090102@gmail.com> (KOSAKI Motohiro's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:14:18 -0500")

KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com> writes:

> (1/24/12 4:11 AM), Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:52:03AM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> Cyrill Gorcunov<gorcunov@gmail.com>  writes:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 04:07:09PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm. But userspace app will get eof, so frankly I don't see
>>>>>> a problem here. Or maybe I miss something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Userspace need to take care of whether there may be"\n" or not even
>>>>> if read() returns EOF.
>>>>> As an interface, it's BUG to say "\n" will be there if you're lucky!"
>>>>> (*) I know script language can handle this but we shouldn't assume that.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about just remove "\n" at EOF  ? I think it's unnecessary.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure thing, it's not a problem to remove it completely.
>>>
>>> Foolish question.  Is there any reason why this is a file instead
>>> of being the obvious directory full of symlinks?
>>>
>>
>> How would these symlinks look like? "../../pid"? There were a conversation
>> about such things (https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/12/2/142) but I suppose we
>> were agree on children with pids as consensus.
>
> I couldn't find any agreement in this link. Suppose wrong url?

Now that you have reminded me of this thread.  I can say that the
link would need to look like ../../pid.  Our children will always
be thread group leaders, so we can safely point to the /proc/<pid>
directories.  So readlink would return ../../<pid> or however many
dots are needed.  Follow link could just warp us to that directory
as it does for the other magic proc symlinks.

My feeling is that a children subdirectory would be a lot more useful
than a simple file that lists the children.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-25  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-23 14:20 [patch 0/4] A few patches in a sake of c/r functionality Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 14:20 ` [patch 1/4] fs, proc: Introduce /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/children entry v8 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 18:54   ` Kees Cook
2012-01-23 19:33     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 20:29       ` Kees Cook
2012-01-23 20:39         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  2:07   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24  6:53     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  7:07       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24  7:21         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  8:52           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-24  9:11             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-25  1:14               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-25  2:11                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2012-01-25  6:55                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-25 15:29                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  8:51         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 23:53   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-25  6:52     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 14:20 ` [patch 2/4] [RFC] syscalls, x86: Add __NR_kcmp syscall v4 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 18:48   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-23 20:03     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  2:16   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24  6:47     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  7:04       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-24  7:17         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  7:20           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24  7:38             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  7:40               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24  8:48                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 20:20                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-24 20:26                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 20:44                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-24 20:50                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 21:20                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-24 21:34                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 21:22                           ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 21:45                             ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 21:46                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-24 22:00                                 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 22:52                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-24 23:42                                     ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 21:46                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 21:59                               ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 22:54                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-24 22:54                               ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 21:25                           ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-24 21:31                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24  8:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-24  8:49               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 14:20 ` [patch 3/4] c/r: procfs: add arg_start/end, env_start/end and exit_code members to /proc/$pid/stat Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 20:42   ` Kees Cook
2012-01-23 20:53     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-24 23:59   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-25  6:54     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-25  7:12       ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-25  7:18         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 14:20 ` [patch 4/4] c/r: prctl: Extend PR_SET_MM to set up more mm_struct entries Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 15:55   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-23 20:02     ` Cyrill Gorcunov

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