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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Gabriel C" <nix.or.die@googlemail.com>,
	"Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jesse Barnes" <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	"Mika Fischer" <mika.fischer@zoopnet.de>,
	balajirrao@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v3
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:02:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1y76wzaxg.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86802c440804291244r502a2d3cla12610a35a0d973b@mail.gmail.com> (Yinghai Lu's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:44:07 -0700")

"Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Eric W. Biederman
> <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>> "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>> >>  The potential problem isn't while we reprogram the MTRRs, the potential
>>  >>  problem is mapping the SMM area uncachable.  In which case we will
>>  >>  make each SMM interrupt drastically slower.  Which can have all kinds of
>>  >>  unpleasant side effects.
>>  >
>>  > and ACPI area too.
>>
>>  True but at least that one is visible.
>>
>>
>>  > that only try to make the continuous to discrete layout. and still try
>>  > to cover all that is (WBs - UC) directly with WB.
>>  > only thing is that could run out of MTRR..., and mtrr_gran_size is
>>  > used to avoid that.
>>  > then some RAM that is less than mtrr_gran_size could be dumped.
>>  > so mtrr_gran_size could do sth.
>>  > anyway this patch only can meet one end.
>>  > for example Mika Fischer's system doesn't need to trim any RAM in MTRR.
>>  > but for Gabriel's system may need to trim some RAM in MTRR.
>>
>>  Right.  Ram trimming (changing memory from WB to UC) is the potential
>>  problem.
>>
>>  See my other post, in short I think we can address safely address all
>>  of the systems where the only problem is the selection of MTRRs by the
>>  BIOS.
>
> BIOS should provide the selection...

The BIOS will setup which areas should be WB in the mtrrs.
Having in the linux the ability to change from overlapping
mtrrs to discrete mtrrs with BIOS support appears very
practical, useful and always safe.

>>  Then have an option (mtrr_chunk_size) for RAM trimming that is
>>  off by default.
>
> Yes. there is CONFIG option and boot command line to enable it.

However when it is enabled the default chunk size is still 256M.
If we did not apply chunk size processing by default so we
did not transform any regions from WB to UC by default we could
unconditionally enable the code that yields discrete MTRRs.

Then the CONFIG option and the command line option could be made to
apply to the dangerous bits that change areas from WB to UC.  Which
I doubt we will want to have on by default but that can be useful
for people who really want to have X go fast and an uncached SMM
or ACPI area is not a problem. (ACPI we can handle by just copying
the code to a cached area, we can't even discover the SMM area).

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-29 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-20  4:45 [PATCH] x86: disable_mtrr_trim only need for x86_64 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-20  5:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-20  6:55   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-20  8:17   ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn Yinghai Lu
2008-01-20  9:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-20 15:08       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21  5:40         ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21  5:44           ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21  5:58           ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn v2 Andi Kleen
2008-01-21  6:05             ` Harvey Harrison
2008-01-21  6:08               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21  6:14                 ` Li Zefan
2008-01-21  6:57             ` [PATCH] x86_64: check if Tom2 is enabled Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 17:24               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-01-21 17:39                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-21 17:49                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-01-21 18:03                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21 18:09                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-01-21 18:15                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-21 18:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21  0:00       ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn Yinghai Lu
     [not found] ` <200801202255.02645.yinghai.lu@sun.com>
     [not found]   ` <200801202255.58642.yinghai.lu@sun.com>
2008-01-21  6:56     ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 16:30       ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-21 19:14         ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-21 20:09           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 21:37             ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-23  3:50               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-26  0:01                 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-26  0:16                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-26  0:37                     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-28 15:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-28 18:07                     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-22 16:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-23  0:23         ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-04-26 10:56           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 12:56             ` Gabriel C
2008-04-27  1:05               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 18:07                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-28 23:16                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 10:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 17:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-29 18:40                       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 19:19                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-29 19:44                           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 20:02                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-04-28  6:44               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28  9:18                 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28  9:34                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28  9:54                     ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 10:03                       ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 10:07                         ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 19:03                           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 13:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 14:11                         ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 14:24                           ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 19:06                             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 19:38                               ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 20:45                                 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 21:19                                   ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 22:03                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 22:56                                       ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 23:23                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29  1:05                                           ` Gabriel C
2008-04-29  2:41                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 10:34                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 10:42                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 19:08                             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 19:46                               ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 14:15                         ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 16:09                         ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-28 16:31                           ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 16:55                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-29 10:37                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 12:40                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-29 15:52                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-29 22:03                               ` [patch] PCI: export resource_wc in pci sysfs Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 22:24                                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-27  0:57             ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-04-27  8:21               ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-27  1:22             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-27  8:29               ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28  6:50             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28  8:38               ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28  9:09                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28  9:44                   ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28  9:58                     ` Gabriel C
2008-01-21  6:57   ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn v3 Yinghai Lu

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