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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Louis Rilling <louis.rilling@kerlabs.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]  Re: [RFC PATCH] namespaces: fix leak on fork() failure
Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 08:36:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1zk9oc61j.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1336142995.25479.49.camel@marge.simpson.net> (Mike Galbraith's message of "Fri, 04 May 2012 16:49:55 +0200")

Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> writes:

> On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 07:13 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: 
>> Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> writes:

>> Did you have HZ=100 in that kernel?  400 tasks at 100Hz all serialized
>> somehow and then doing synchronize_rcu at a jiffy each would account
>> for 4 seconds.  And the nsproxy certainly has a synchronize_rcu call.
>
> HZ=250

Rats.  Then non of my theories even approaches holding water.

>> The network namespace is comparatively heavy weight, at least in the
>> amount of code and other things it has to go through, so that would be
>> my prime suspect for those 29 seconds.  There are 2-4 synchronize_rcu
>> calls needed to put the loopback device.  Still we use
>> synchronize_rcu_expedited and that work should be out of line and all of
>> those calls should batch.
>> 
>> Mike is this something you are looking at a pursuing farther?
>
> Not really, but I can put it on my good intentions list.

About what I expected.  I just wanted to make certain I understood the
situation.

I will remember this as something weird and when I have time perhaps
I will investigate and track it.

>> I want to guess the serialization comes from waiting on children to be
>> reaped but the namespaces are all cleaned up in exit_notify() called
>> from do_exit() so that theory doesn't hold water.  The worst case
>> I can see is detach_pid from exit_signal running under the task list lock.
>> but nothing sleeps under that lock.  :(
>
> I'm up to my ears in zombies with several instances of the testcase
> running in parallel, so I imagine it's the same with hackbench.

Oh interesting.

> marge:/usr/local/tmp/starvation # taskset -c 3 ./hackbench -namespace& for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; do ps ax|grep defunct|wc -l;sleep 1; done
> [1] 29985
> Running with 10*40 (== 400) tasks.
> 1
> 397
> 327
> 261
> 199
> 135
> 72
> marge:/usr/local/tmp/starvation # Time: 7.675

So if I read your output right the first second is spent running the
code and the rest of the time is spent reaping zombies.

So if this is all in reaping zombies it should be possible to add go
faster stripes by setting exit_signal to -1 on these guys.  I know
you can do that for threads, and I seem to remember hackbench using
threads so that might be interesting.

I wonder if it might be userspace scheduling madness.

What changes the speed of a waitpid loop?  Weird.  Very Weird.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-04 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-28  9:19 [RFC PATCH] namespaces: fix leak on fork() failure Mike Galbraith
2012-04-28 14:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29  4:13   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-29  7:57   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-04-29  9:49     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-29 16:58     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-30  2:59       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-04-30  3:25         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-02 12:40         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-02 17:37           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-04-30  3:01       ` [PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
     [not found]         ` <m1zk9rmyh4.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
2012-05-01 20:42           ` Andrew Morton
2012-05-03  3:12             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-03 14:56               ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04  4:27                 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04  7:55                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-04  8:34                     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04  9:45                     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04 14:13                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-04 14:49                         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04 15:36                           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2012-05-04 16:57                             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04 20:29                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-05  5:56                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-05  6:08                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-05  7:12                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-05 11:37                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-07 21:51                                       ` [PATCH] vfs: Speed up deactivate_super for non-modular filesystems Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-07 22:17                                         ` Al Viro
2012-05-07 23:56                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-08  1:07                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-08  4:53                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-09  7:55                                               ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-09 11:02                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-15  8:40                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-16  0:34                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-09 13:59                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-04  8:03                 ` [PATCH] Re: [RFC PATCH] namespaces: fix leak on fork() failure Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-04  8:19                   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-04  8:54                     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-05-07  0:32             ` [PATCH 0/3] pidns: Closing the pid namespace exit race Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-07  0:33               ` [PATCH 1/3] pidns: Use task_active_pid_ns in do_notify_parent Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-07  0:35               ` [PATCH 2/3] pidns: Guarantee that the pidns init will be the last pidns process reaped Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-08 22:50                 ` Andrew Morton
2012-05-16 18:39                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-16 19:34                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-16 20:54                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-17 17:00                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-17 21:46                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-18 12:39                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-19  0:03                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-21 12:44                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-22  0:16                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-22  0:20                               ` [PATCH] pidns: Guarantee that the pidns init will be the last pidns process reaped. v2 Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-22 16:54                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-22 19:23                                 ` Andrew Morton
2012-05-23 14:52                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-25 15:15                                     ` [PATCH -mm] pidns-guarantee-that-the-pidns-init-will-be-the-last-pidns-process-r eaped-v2-fix-fix Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-25 15:59                                       ` [PATCH -mm 0/1] pidns: find_new_reaper() can no longer switch to init_pid_ns.child_reaper Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-25 16:00                                         ` [PATCH -mm 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-25 21:43                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-27 19:10                                             ` [PATCH v2 -mm 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-27 19:11                                               ` [PATCH v2 -mm 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-29  6:34                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-25 21:25                                       ` [PATCH -mm] pidns-guarantee-that-the-pidns-init-will-be-the-last-pidns-process-r eaped-v2-fix-fix Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-27 18:41                                         ` [PATCH -mm v2] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-07  0:35               ` [PATCH 3/3] pidns: Make killed children autoreap Eric W. Biederman
2012-05-08 22:51                 ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH] namespaces: fix leak on fork() failure Mike Galbraith

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