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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>
To: "Jon Medhurst \(Tixy\)" <tixy@linaro.org>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] firmware: scpi: add device power domain support using genpd
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:50:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2inx3bvgy.fsf@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1466151552.2841.10.camel@linaro.org> (Jon Medhurst's message of "Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:19:12 +0100")

"Jon Medhurst (Tixy)" <tixy@linaro.org> writes:

> On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 18:59 +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> 
>> On 16/06/16 18:47, Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 11:38 +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> +enum scpi_power_domain_state {
>> >> +	SCPI_PD_STATE_ON = 0,
>> >> +	SCPI_PD_STATE_OFF = 3,
>> >> +};
>> >
>> > The SCPI doc defines the meaning of these numbers (0 and 3) in the 'Juno
>> > specifics' chapter. So does these values need to come from device-tree
>> > to allow for other hardware or SCP implementations?
>> >
>> 
>> Ah unfortunately true :(. I had not noticed that. But I would like to
>> check if this can be made as part of the standard protocol. Adding such
>> details to DT seems overkill and defeat of the whole purpose of the
>> standard protocol.
>
> Well. it seems to me the 'standard protocol' is whatever the current
> implementation of ARM's closed source SCP firmware is. It also seems to
> me that people are making things up as they go along, without a clue as
> to how to make things generic, robust and future proof. Basically,
> Status Normal ARM Fucked Up.

Fully agree here.  Just because ARM calls it a "standard" does not make
it so.  As we've already seen[1], vendors are using initial/older/whatever
versions of SCPI, so pushing the Juno version as standard just becuase
it's in ARM's closed firmware is not the right way forward either.

Kevin

[1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-arm-kernel&m=146425562931515&w=2

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-20 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 10:37 [PATCH v2 0/3] firmware: scpi: add device power domain support Sudeep Holla
2016-06-16 10:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] firmware: arm_scpi: add support for device power state management Sudeep Holla
2016-06-16 18:03   ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2016-06-17  8:46     ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-16 10:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Documentation: add DT bindings for ARM SCPI power domains Sudeep Holla
2016-06-16 10:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] firmware: scpi: add device power domain support using genpd Sudeep Holla
2016-06-16 17:47   ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2016-06-16 17:59     ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-17  8:19       ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2016-06-17  8:38         ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-20 17:50         ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2016-06-20 17:57           ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-17  8:55   ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-17  8:55     ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-20 17:53   ` Kevin Hilman
2016-06-20 18:06     ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-16 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] firmware: scpi: add device power domain support Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2016-06-16 13:26   ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-17  8:56     ` Ulf Hansson
2016-06-17 15:22 ` Mathieu Poirier
2016-06-17 15:34   ` Sudeep Holla
2016-06-20 17:56 ` Kevin Hilman
2016-06-20 18:02   ` Sudeep Holla

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