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From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: "Norman Diamond" <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>
Cc: "Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@Maxtor.com>,
	"'Hans Reiser '" <reiser@namesys.com>,
	"'Wes Janzen '" <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
	"'Rogier Wolff '" <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	"'John Bradford '" <john@grabjohn.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <nikita@namesys.com>,
	"'Pavel Machek '" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"'Justin Cormack '" <justin@street-vision.com>,
	"'Vitaly Fertman '" <vitaly@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results end
Date: 27 Oct 2003 11:48:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3u15vdkh2.fsf@defiant.pm.waw.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3cbb01c39c6f$17608410$24ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60>

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp> writes:

> Bingo.  This is why reallocation at the time of a failed read is also
> necessary.  Yes the data are lost, yes the failure needs to be both logged
> (once)

The log entry may be easily lost. Especially when the drive is failing.

> and displayed to the user (once),

To which user??? Hard drive sectors have no users.

> yes if an application reads it
> again before writing then it will be garbage or zeroes,

I hope drive makers won't take it seriously.

> but get the LBA
> sector number moved to a place that is less likely to be unreliable.

So you rather want to read garbage than get a real I/O error.
The only situation I can imagine which benefits from such an approach
is playing an audio-video stream.

> Meanwhile software must still make up for defective firmware.

Yeah. yeah. Only "if (drive_is_toshiba()) BUG()" comes to my mind.
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa, B*FH

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-27 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-26 18:39 Blockbusting news, results end Mudama, Eric
2003-10-27  9:45 ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-27 10:48   ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-28 16:10 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-28 18:30 ` bill davidsen
2003-10-28 11:31 Norman Diamond
2003-10-27 17:50 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-26  8:49 Norman Diamond
2003-10-26  9:22 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-26 11:25   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-27 20:58     ` jw schultz
2003-10-27 22:27       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-27 22:57         ` jw schultz
2003-10-28  2:03           ` jw schultz
2003-10-26 11:01 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 12:59   ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-26 12:05     ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 12:39       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-26 16:26         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 17:13           ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-26 18:20             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 19:07               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-27 12:44                 ` Vitaly Fertman

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