From: "Haitao Huang" <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:58:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.2cyma0e9wjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <915907d56861ef4aa7f9f68e0eb8d136a60bee39.camel@intel.com>
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 20:34:57 -0500, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 19:10 -0500, Haitao Huang wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:09:52 -0500, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> > still need to fix the bug mentioned above here.
>> >
>> > I really think you should just go this simple way:
>> >
>> > When you want to take EPC back from VM, kill the VM.
>> >
>>
>> My only concern is that this is a compromise due to current limitation
>> (no
>> other sane way to take EPC from VMs). If we define this behavior and it
>> becomes a contract to user space, then we can't change in future.
>
> Why do we need to "define such behaviour"?
>
> This isn't some kinda of kernel/userspace ABI IMHO, but only kernel
> internal
> implementation. Here VM is similar to normal host enclaves. You limit
> the
> resource, some host enclaves could be killed. Similarly, VM could also
> be
> killed too.
>
> And supporting VMM EPC oversubscription doesn't mean VM won't be
> killed. The VM
> can still be a target to kill after VM's all EPC pages have been swapped
> out.
>
>>
>> On the other hand, my understanding the reason you want this behavior is
>> to enforce EPC limit at runtime.
>
> No I just thought this is a bug/issue needs to be fixed. If anyone
> believes
> this is not a bug/issue then it's a separate discussion.
>
AFAIK, before we introducing max_write() callback in this series, no misc
controller would possibly enforce the limit when misc.max is reduced. e.g.
I don't think CVMs be killed when ASID limit is reduced and the cgroup was
full before limit is reduced.
I think EPC pages to VMs could have the same behavior, once they are given
to a guest, never taken back by the host. For enclaves on host side, pages
are reclaimable, that allows us to enforce in a similar way to memcg.
Thanks
Haitao
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-17 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-23 3:06 [PATCH v5 00/18] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:09 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 3:04 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-26 13:10 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 1:56 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 22:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-02 22:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-04 15:45 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 17:18 ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-27 9:20 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 14:29 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:55 ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type and export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 18:50 ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-28 3:59 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 7:00 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 19:33 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_lists to encapsulate LRU lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] x86/sgx: Use sgx_epc_lru_lists for existing active page list Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] x86/sgx: Store reclaimable EPC pages in sgx_epc_lru_lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 10:14 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] x86/sgx: Introduce EPC page states Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:11 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:28 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 4:49 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:03 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:24 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:05 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] x86/sgx: Introduce RECLAIM_IN_PROGRESS state Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:42 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] x86/sgx: Use a list to track to-be-reclaimed pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-28 9:28 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 5:09 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] x86/sgx: Store struct sgx_encl when allocating new VA pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:14 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 15:35 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 21:21 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-29 15:06 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 11:05 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 11:35 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 6:45 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:07 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:03 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:13 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 4:22 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 6:49 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC page flags to identify owner types Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] x86/sgx: store unreclaimable pages in LRU lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:57 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 5:42 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-28 9:41 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 5:15 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:12 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC Haitao Huang
2023-10-09 23:45 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 0:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-10 0:50 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 1:34 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 16:49 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11 0:51 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-12 13:27 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 10:57 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 19:52 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:09 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 0:10 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 1:34 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 12:58 ` Haitao Huang [this message]
2023-10-17 18:54 ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-17 19:13 ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18 4:39 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 4:37 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 13:55 ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:26 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 15:37 ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:52 ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18 16:25 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17 0:09 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 15:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17 11:49 ` Mikko Ylinen
2023-10-11 1:14 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 11:02 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 1:42 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10 2:23 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 13:26 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11 0:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-11 15:02 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10 1:04 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10 1:18 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 1:38 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10 2:12 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 17:05 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11 0:31 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-11 16:04 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for use by EPC cgroup Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:24 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:23 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:25 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] x86/sgx: Add helper to grab pages from an arbitrary EPC LRU Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] x86/sgx: Prepare for multiple LRUs Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:30 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:33 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:38 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] x86/sgx: Limit process EPC usage with misc cgroup controller Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-05 21:01 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 0:12 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 0:16 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 0:26 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-22 18:26 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10 9:19 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 9:32 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 18:54 ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-19 16:05 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2023-09-23 3:06 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang
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