From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932285AbVISBh5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:37:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932286AbVISBh5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:37:57 -0400 Received: from boutiquenumerique.com ([82.67.9.10]:49129 "EHLO boutiquenumerique.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932285AbVISBh4 (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:37:56 -0400 To: "Dan Oglesby" , "David Masover" Cc: "Horst von Brand" , thenewme91@gmail.com, "Christoph Hellwig" , "Denis Vlasenko" , chriswhite@gentoo.org, "Hans Reiser" , LKML , "ReiserFS List" Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel References: <200509182004.j8IK4JNx012764@inti.inf.utfsm.cl> <432DCE2A.5070705@slaphack.com> <432DDF7A.3050704@teleformix.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:37:47 +0200 From: PFC Organization: =?iso-8859-15?Q?La_Boutique_Num=E9rique?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed delsp=yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <432DDF7A.3050704@teleformix.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Linux, build 1095) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > I'm of the same opinion. If I have hardware that has a problem, and > causes downtime, it gets replaced or repaired. I don't switch to a > different piece of software to compensate for broken hardware. > > With that said, I have seen ReiserFS expose hardware that had problems. > Hardware was repaired, and ReiserFS rides again. This summer : Coming back from vacation, looking at the logs, I saw that the cupboard router-server had kernel-panicked almost daily and rebooted itself automatically. I also had a lot of corrupted BitTorrent downloads. I could have blamed reiserfs, or bittorrent. But instead, I opened the case and found the CPU was overheating due to the fan being clogged by an unbelievable amount of accumulated dust and crap. reiserfs was still happy, I ran a fsck just to be sure, no errors. fhew. I wonder how it's possible. Given the state of the CPU fan, everything should have been wiped out. I have an all-reiser4 laptop (except /boot) and it's great. No problems whatsoever, it flies. Pentium-M kicks ass. My jukebox PC is half reiser3 and (since a few months) half reiser4, running fine, on the cheapest possible motherboard, and the no-name RAM, with an underclocked Duron. The hardware is so bad I had to underclock the PC133 to PC100. It has never crashed in 4 years, or got any data corruption. Crap hardware is actually sometimes pretty good if you underclock it (just have to get lucky). With windows, it used to bluescreen just by plugging a cable in the ethernet port. My server is all reiser3 too. I could have used other filesystems but reiserfs Just Works. No horror stories to tell, sorry. I like reiserfs. I don't care it there were very old versions that crashed. I don't care about Linux 2.0 or 1 either. Or Netscape 2. That's the past now.