From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:58:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:58:31 -0400 Received: from intranet.resilience.com ([209.245.157.33]:38863 "EHLO intranet.resilience.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:58:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011022184738.D29445@hapablap.dyn.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20011022122722.A369@top.worldcontrol.com> <20011022174502.B29445@hapablap.dyn.dhs.org> <20011022184738.D29445@hapablap.dyn.dhs.org> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:58:48 -0700 To: Steven Walter From: Jonathan Lundell Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At 6:47 PM -0500 10/22/01, Steven Walter wrote: > > That seems like a willful misreading of the original. Where did you >> get "consent"? Alan suggests that non-rebellion implies lack of >> consciousness, which doesn't imply consent. > >Seems like, but isn't. It's every citizen's responsibility to be aware >of the matters concerning the State. If they aren't, then again it is >their own fault. I don't quarrel with the fact that you assert that. However, it does not follow from Alan's statement. And if non-rebellion by a citizenry against immoral behavior by its government justifies the slaughter of that citizenry, then, to quote Jefferson in a slightly different context, " Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever." -- /Jonathan Lundell.