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From: Jonathan Lundell <linux@lundell-bros.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows temperature anomaly
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:58:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p0521050dba8c56efeacb@[10.2.0.101]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E66964E.6050101@wmich.edu>

At 7:29pm -0500 3/5/03, Ed Sweetman wrote:
>I've never heard of running linux frying someone's cpu. I could see 
>frying a power supply because cheap power supplies will fail after a 
>while of idle/load cycles that linux is good at using. I really dont 
>see how else linux could be more "busy" than winows especially since 
>windows has 5 or 6 spyware ad programs running behind the scenes all 
>the time anyway and the virus scanner having to check every 
>instruction would definitly lead to a higher cpu average than a 
>linux box ding the same things minus the spyware and virus scanner. 
>It just doesn't make any sense. Erroring out more in linux than 
>windows...possibly yes depending on which version but not hardware 
>damage under normal use.

I don't think it's a case of "busy" per se. Both systems are 100% 
occupied with a userland memory test (it just mallocs and locks a 
biggish buffer, and does reads and writes of various patters). One 
pass of the test takes about 104 seconds on both systems (presumably 
it's memory-bound, so compiler differences aren't showing up).

It was suggested off-list that I compare the chipset config registers 
to see if anything is different. I've been meaning to do that, but 
just looking at the registers, I don't see anything that would affect 
FSB timing, or the FSB at all, for that matter. Naetheless, I'll do 
the comparison as soon as I dig up an lspci equivalent for Win2K.

As for temperature differences, the heat sink temperature (at least) 
doesn't seem to differ appreciably between the systems, which is what 
I'd expect with essentially the same load on each.

I'm wondering, somewhat ignorantly, if there might be some kind of 
CPU configuration that Windows is adjusting, as some kind of 
workaround or the like. I don't suppose that this is the best place 
to ask how to read MSRs from Windows....
-- 
/Jonathan Lundell.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-03-06  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2003-02-27 18:42       ` SWSUSP Discontiguous pagedirs Nigel Cunningham
2003-03-01  4:22       ` SWSUSP Discontiguous pagedir patch Nigel Cunningham
2003-03-02 23:55         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-03  2:06           ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-03-03  2:31           ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-03-03 12:30           ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-04 20:36             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-05 20:50               ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-05 21:52                 ` Linux vs Windows temperature anomaly Jonathan Lundell
2003-03-05 23:11                   ` Herman Oosthuysen
2003-03-05 23:38                     ` Con Kolivas
2003-03-05 23:50                       ` Russell King
2003-03-06  0:29                         ` Ed Sweetman
2003-03-06  0:47                           ` Trever L. Adams
2003-03-06  9:45                             ` Russell King
2003-03-06  1:58                           ` Jonathan Lundell [this message]
2003-03-06  7:18                       ` Corvus Corax
2003-03-06  7:57                         ` Ed Sweetman
2003-03-06  8:18                           ` Corvus Corax
2003-03-06  8:58                             ` Ed Sweetman
2003-03-06 15:41                               ` Jesse Pollard
2003-03-06 14:27                         ` Jesse Pollard
2003-03-06  2:57                   ` David Rees
2003-03-06  6:12                   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-03-06 16:07                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-03-07  0:40                   ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-05 18:02           ` SWSUSP Discontiguous pagedir patch Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 17:14             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-07 20:27               ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-09 19:39                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-03-09 20:12                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-10 16:49                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-10 19:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-10 19:05                     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-10 22:17                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-03-10 23:20                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 20:36               ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-10 16:51                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-10 19:12                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-10 18:59                     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-03-07 20:41               ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-06 17:29 Linux vs Windows temperature anomaly Ed Vance

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