From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271385AbTGXIvE (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:51:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271405AbTGXIvE (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:51:04 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]:31963 "EHLO main.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271385AbTGXIup (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:50:45 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Leandro_Guimar=E3es_Faria_Corsetti_Dutra?= Subject: Re: Switching to the OSL License, in a dual way. Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:05:00 +0200 Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20Fam=C3=ADlia?= Dutra Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Pan/0.14.0 (I'm Being Nibbled to Death by Cats!) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:42:30 +0000, Dean McEwan wrote: > After recently reading Mr. Stallman's online *BLURB* at > www.stallman.org, specifically the diary entry on June 28th 2003, I > am disturbed Yes, that entry is disgusting. Furthermore, I think one can has good philosophical reasons to totally reject these views. But I have to praise RMS for keeping them fairly separate of his FSF & GNU work, to the point of using a separate domain. Many other activists don't do the same, mixing free software with antiglobalisation and other divisive opinions. > I would like to work on helping you people move to a OSL licence, > work out copyright owners and add the OSL option to each individual > file one by one. I fail to see the connection between licensing and RMS' personal political opinions. Or do you suggest a Thought Police should be nominated to investigate ESR opinions before accepting the OSL? I fear it won't be much better... perhaps they might not offend you but sure will offend other people. > I am willing to pay to track down unfindable people. This is a worthy goal. > This license does not lose you any additional freedoms, in fact it > is more legally secure so it gains you legal security What do you mean? As I understand it OPL has no specific advantages over the GNU GPL apart from dissociation from the GNU Project. All I heard up to now were subjective stuff like "it's simpler", "I can understand it" or "more strict lawyerspeak", all of which seems contracditory to me. I am still awaiting a good comparision and a case for it. Google helped me nothing here. On the other hand the real soft belly of the kernel as I understand it is the lack of copyright assignments. Assuming you can track all copyright owners, which I doubt one possibly can now, getting the agreement from all of them would be roughly the same as having their assignments, without the same juridical safety effect. And you may open a Pandora box, as I haven't seen any thourough study on the possible effects of adding or substituting OSL for the GNU GPL. > as well as the traditional GNU freedoms which RMS is jeopordising > with a disgusting set of *IDEALS*. Can you be more specific? How can one have freedom without ideals? This looks like just another road to serfdom to me... see where anglo-saxon pragmatism has lead us: WIPO, DMCA, eternal copyrights... > One of 4 members of the board of DM. TECH. What's DM TECH? -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Answer to the list, not to me directly! +55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ Rate this if helpful: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=leandro