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From: Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>
To: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@stackframe.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:39:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vUIPai73T-nuC9ppTs9iaxFwCLWyB3ip7A3zfbhJTyYBqlqJLbOU217hKMAjZNrSnSdeKJa_3cnsr3S7vsK1QuxH22ESAGN-iZXF0DigALU=@emersion.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f96f393-e59d-34ac-c98b-46180e2225cd@suse.de>

On Tuesday, January 18th, 2022 at 15:23, Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> wrote:

> Am 18.01.22 um 09:10 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> > Hi Gerd,
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:30 AM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> Also note that using a shadow framebuffer allows to decouple fbcon
> >> updates and scanout framebuffer updates.  Can be used to speed up
> >> things without depending on the 2d blitter.
> >
> > Assuming accesses to the shadow frame buffer are faster than accesses
> > to the scanout frame buffer. While this is true on modern hardware,
> > this is not the case on all hardware.  Especially if the shadow frame
> > buffer has a higher depth (XRGB8888) than the scanout frame buffer
> > (e.g. Cn)...
> >
> > The funny thing is that the systems we are interested in, once used
> > to be known for their graphics capabilities and/or performance...
>
> What I still don't understand: why are you so keen on maintaining an
> interface that only serves the console? Nothing else uses fbdev these
> days. Why not improve DRM/userspace to the point where it fits your
> requirements? Long-term, the latter would make a lot more sense.

+1

If you need any help with adapting user-space, feel free to ping me. I'd be
interested in discussing, providing feedback and potentially user-space
patches.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-18 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14 18:11 [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer Helge Deller
2022-01-14 18:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17  9:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 10:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 10:19   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-17 10:49   ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-17 10:57     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:15   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:57     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-17 13:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 13:51         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 14:10           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 14:47             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:03               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 20:17                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  6:29                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18  8:10                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:44                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 14:23                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18 14:39                         ` Simon Ser [this message]
2022-01-20 12:50                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-21  8:55                           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 18:38                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 18:50                               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 19:05                               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18  8:20                     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  9:16                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 10:13                         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 10:44                           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 12:48                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-17 15:05               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 16:05                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 14:53             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18  6:11         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18  8:09           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:00     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 15:42       ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:56         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 15:58         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 16:21           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 16:38             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 17:19               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 19:45             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 21:55               ` Ilia Mirkin
2022-01-18 11:14                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 14:14             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 21:40           ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-17 21:44             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  8:38               ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-18  8:41                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:41                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 12:11                     ` Simon Ser
2022-01-18  8:54                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  9:33                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-18  9:45                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:18                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 11:42                     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  8:41       ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  9:12         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 11:16 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 11:33   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:13     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 18:47   ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18  8:33     ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-01-18  9:53       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 11:22         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 12:07           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-19  8:39         ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-01-20  9:06         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-20 11:32           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 12:13             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-20 12:33               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 12:46                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 18:50                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 19:37                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 11:51           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18  8:58     ` Michel Dänzer
2022-01-18 10:05       ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18 14:06     ` Thomas Zimmermann

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