From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org, x86@kernel.org,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 14:49:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x498u6crzum.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151105083309.GJ19199@dastard> (Dave Chinner's message of "Thu, 5 Nov 2015 19:33:09 +1100")
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> writes:
>> But this part is not. It is up to the I/O scheduler to decide when to
>> dispatch requests. It can hold on to them for a variety of reasons.
>> Flush requests, however, do not go through the I/O scheduler. At the
>
> That's pure REQ_FLUSH bios, right? Aren't data IOs with
> REQ_FLUSH|REQ_FUA sorted like any other IO?
No, they also go through the flush machinery, and so short-circuit the
I/O scheduler.
>> Des xfs rely on this model for correctness? If so, I'd say we've got a
>> problem
>
> No, it doesn't. The XFS integrity model doesn't trust the IO layers
> to tell the truth about IO ordering and completion or for it's
> developers to fully understand how IO layer ordering works. :P
>
> i.e. we wait for full completions of all dependent IO before issuing
> flushes or log writes that use REQ_FLUSH|REQ_FUA semantics to ensure
> the dependent IOs are fully caught by the cache flushes...
OK, phew! ;-)
-Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-05 19:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-29 20:12 [RFC 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 01/11] pmem: add wb_cache_pmem() to the PMEM API Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 02/11] mm: add pmd_mkclean() Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 03/11] pmem: enable REQ_FLUSH handling Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 04/11] dax: support dirty DAX entries in radix tree Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 05/11] mm: add follow_pte_pmd() Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 06/11] mm: add pgoff_mkclean() Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 07/11] mm: add find_get_entries_tag() Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 08/11] fs: add get_block() to struct inode_operations Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 09/11] dax: add support for fsync/sync Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 10/11] xfs, ext2: call dax_pfn_mkwrite() on write fault Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 20:12 ` [RFC 11/11] ext4: add ext4_dax_pfn_mkwrite() Ross Zwisler
2015-10-29 22:49 ` [RFC 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support Ross Zwisler
2015-10-30 3:55 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-30 18:39 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-01 23:29 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-02 14:22 ` Jeff Moyer
2015-11-02 20:10 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-02 21:02 ` Jeff Moyer
2015-11-04 18:34 ` Jeff Moyer
2015-11-05 8:33 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-05 19:49 ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2015-11-05 20:54 ` Jens Axboe
2015-10-30 18:34 ` Dan Williams
2015-10-30 19:43 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-10-30 19:51 ` Dan Williams
2015-11-01 23:36 ` Dave Chinner
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