From: mru@kth.se (Måns Rullgård)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev sysfs docs Re: State of devfs in 2.6?
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:39:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xd6ayib3f.fsf@kth.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: buoiskqfivq.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp
Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp> writes:
>> > > A: That is correct. If you really require this functionality, then
>> > > use devfs. There is no way that udev can support this, and it
>> > > never will.
>> >
>> > That's something I don't understand: I thought that with a well
>> > configured hotplug+udev system, you'll never have to worry about loading
>> > drivers on device-node open() because all drivers should be auto-loaded
>> > and all device-nodes should be auto-created.
>>
>> No, you are correct. That's why I'm not really worried about this, and
>> I don't think anyone else should be either.
>
> Is there a specific case for which people want this feature?
> Offhand it seems like a slightly odd thing to ask for...
I believe the original motivation for module autoloading was to save
memory by unloading modules when their devices were unused. Loading
them automatically on demand made for less trouble for users, who
didn't have to run modprobe manually to use the sound card, or
whatever. This could still be a good thing in embedded systems.
--
Måns Rullgård
mru@kth.se
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-09 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-08 15:36 State of devfs in 2.6? Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 15:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-08 15:59 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 23:38 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 10:37 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-09 10:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 12:54 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2003-12-09 5:04 ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 19:09 ` udev sysfs docs " Bob
2003-12-08 23:37 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 5:17 ` Witukind
2003-12-09 7:21 ` Bob
2003-12-09 7:39 ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09 8:52 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 9:16 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 9:18 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:46 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 10:25 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 15:28 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 20:16 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 20:53 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 22:14 ` Olaf Hering
2003-12-09 22:46 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 23:03 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 7:56 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:00 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09 9:08 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09 9:39 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2003-12-09 11:01 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-12 11:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 13:33 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-12 14:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 16:34 ` Chuck Campbell
2003-12-12 17:13 ` Chris Friesen
2003-12-12 17:17 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-15 2:12 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-15 3:51 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-15 6:09 ` Tim Connors
2003-12-10 19:23 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 19:33 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 20:22 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 20:47 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 20:53 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 21:31 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:28 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 6:31 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:49 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:48 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-11 1:53 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-11 8:42 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 16:33 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10 20:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:40 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09 9:55 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09 13:03 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09 15:01 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-09 18:30 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:53 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 7:02 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10 20:06 ` Witukind
2003-12-11 9:27 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-11 10:15 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 11:05 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10 0:38 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:26 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 9:41 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-10 8:13 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-12-10 8:24 ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 23:04 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:34 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 0:31 ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2003-12-09 0:42 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 0:51 ` [PATCH] sysfs support for vcs devices (was Re: State of devfs in 2.6?) Greg KH
2003-12-09 5:26 ` State of devfs in 2.6? Rob Landley
2003-12-09 18:19 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:20 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 7:02 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 7:13 ` Murray J. Root
2003-12-09 8:21 ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09 8:52 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09 10:08 ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09 17:10 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10 5:42 ` Greg KH
2003-12-10 23:29 ` jw schultz
2003-12-11 20:32 ` [2.4.23] cursor dissapears in framebuffer console after switching back from X Witukind
2003-12-11 23:59 ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-12 6:24 ` Witukind
2003-12-09 8:32 ` State of devfs in 2.6? Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:59 ` Jan Dittmer
2003-12-09 13:54 ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09 16:27 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 16:47 ` Eduard Bloch
2003-12-09 19:33 ` Greg KH
2003-12-10 2:15 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-10 4:10 ` Bob
2003-12-09 7:33 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-12-09 9:48 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:35 ` Greg KH
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