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From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
Cc: Toma Tabacu <Toma.Tabacu@imgtec.com>,
	Daniel Sanders <Daniel.Sanders@imgtec.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Paul Burton <Paul.Burton@imgtec.com>,
	Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>,
	"Steven J. Hill" <Steven.Hill@imgtec.com>,
	Manuel Lauss <manuel.lauss@gmail.com>,
	Jim Quinlan <jim2101024@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mips\@linux-mips.org" <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] MIPS: LLVMLinux: Silence unicode warnings when preprocessing assembly.
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 12:56:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xh9v0a55p.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1502051107150.22715@eddie.linux-mips.org> (Maciej W. Rozycki's message of "Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:35:42 +0000 (GMT)")

"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org> writes:

> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, Toma Tabacu wrote:
>
>> > 2. It considers these character pairs to be unicode escapes in the first 
>> >    place given that they do not follow the syntax required for such 
>> >    escapes, that is `\unnnn', where `n' are hex digits.
>> > 
>> 
>> It doesn't actually treat them as unicode escapes, but it still warns
>> the user, in case they were meant to be unicode escapes. Here's the
>> warning message:
>> 
>> arch/mips/include/asm/asmmacro.h:197:51: warning: \u used with no following hex digits; treating as '\' followed by identifier [-Wunicode]
>>          .word  0x41000000 | (\rt << 16) | (\rd << 11) | (\u << 5) | (\sel)
>>                                                           ^
>> I'll add it to the summary in v2.
>
>  Thanks, that makes things clearer.  It always makes sense to include the 
> exact error message produced where applicable or otherwise people do not 
> necessarily know what the matter is.
>
>> > Of course it may be reasonable for us to work this bug around as we've 
>> > been doing for years with GCC, but has the issue been reported back to 
>> > clang maintainers?  What was their response?
>> > 
>> 
>> It hasn't been reported, but I don't think they would agree with removing
>> unicode escape sequences from the assembler-with-cpp mode because it is
>> currently being used for other languages as well, not just assembly.
>
>  First, preprocessing rules surely have to be language specific.  The C 
> language standard does not specify what the preprocessor is meant to do 
> (if anything) for other languages.  GCC or clang -- that's no different.  
>
>  The assembly language has a different syntax and `\u' has a different 
> meaning in the context of assembly macro expansion than it would have in a 
> name of a symbol, where such a Unicode escape sequence might indeed be 
> interpreted as such and character encoded propagated to the symbol 
> produced.  But that's up to the assembler -- GAS for example does not 
> AFAIK support Unicode escape sequences in symbol names right now, but I 
> suppose such a feature could be added if desired.
>
>  Which prompts another question of course: how does the clang C compiler 
> represent Unicode characters in identifiers in its assembly output?
>
>  I have looked into the C language standard and it appears to me like the 
> translation phase to interpret universal character names at has not been 
> defined.  This is probably why the standard does specify the result of 
> pasting preprocessor tokens together as undefined if a universal character 
> name is produced this way.

That is my interpretation as well.

>  Consequently I think an important question in this context is: does 
> clang's preprocessor actually convert these sequences anyhow before 
> passing them down to the compiler?  How for example does C output from a 
> trivial example that contains such Unicode escape sequences look like 
> then?
>
>> One such language is Haskell (ghc, to be more specific), for which
>> the clang developers had to actually stop the preprocessor from
>> enforcing the C universal character name restrictions in
>> assembler-with-cpp mode, which suggests that ghc wants the
>> preprocessor to check for unicode escape sequences.
>> 
>> At the moment, we can either disable -Wunicode for asmmacro.h or
>> refrain from using '\u' as an identifier.
>
>  To be clear: it's `u' here that is the identifier, the leading `\' is 
> merely how assembly syntax has been specified for references to macro 
> arguments.  And TBH I find banning any macro arguments starting with `u' 
> rather silly.

Agreed.

> I'm leaning towards considering having -Wunicode disabled for all
> assembly sources, or maybe even for the whole Linux compilation, the
> right solution.  It's not like we have a need for Unicode identifiers.

It might be an idea to disable -Wunicode and have checkpatch warn about
Unicode escapes instead if people are worried about this.  Personally, I
doubt there's much cause for concern here.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mans@mansr.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-05 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-03 13:37 [PATCH 0/5] MIPS: LLVMLinux: Patches to enable compilation of a working kernel for MIPS using Clang/LLVM Daniel Sanders
2015-02-03 13:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] LLVMLinux: Correct size_index table before replacing the bootstrap kmem_cache_node Daniel Sanders
2015-02-03 15:14   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-03 16:00     ` Daniel Sanders
2015-02-04 20:52       ` [PATCH v2 " Daniel Sanders
2015-02-04 21:06       ` [PATCH v3 1/5] slab: " Daniel Sanders
2015-02-05  8:37         ` Pekka Enberg
2015-02-04 19:33   ` [PATCH 1/5] LLVMLinux: " Pekka Enberg
2015-02-04 20:38     ` Daniel Sanders
2015-02-04 20:42       ` Pekka Enberg
2015-02-04 21:08         ` Daniel Sanders
2015-02-03 13:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] MIPS: LLVMLinux: Fix a 'cast to type not present in union' error Daniel Sanders
2015-02-03 13:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] MIPS: LLVMLinux: Fix an 'inline asm input/output type mismatch' error Daniel Sanders
2015-02-04 12:57   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-05 15:43     ` Daniel Sanders
2015-02-06 10:09       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-09 11:33   ` [PATCH v2 " Daniel Sanders
2015-02-09 14:12     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-09 16:44     ` [PATCH v3 " Daniel Sanders
2015-02-03 13:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] MIPS: LLVMLinux: Silence variable self-assignment warnings Daniel Sanders
2015-02-03 13:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] MIPS: LLVMLinux: Silence unicode warnings when preprocessing assembly Daniel Sanders
2015-02-04 10:36   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-05 10:25     ` Toma Tabacu
2015-02-05 12:35       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-05 12:56         ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2015-02-11 17:37           ` Daniel Sanders

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