From: Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org> To: Olivier Dion <olivier.dion@polymtl.ca> Cc: lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH lttng-ust] Add ctor/dtor priorities for tracepoints/events Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 14:58:48 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview] Message-ID: <1150223945.10384.1594666728119.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <87lfjnxngn.fsf@clara> ----- On Jul 13, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Olivier Dion olivier.dion@polymtl.ca wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jul 2020, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote: >> ----- On Jul 13, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Olivier Dion olivier.dion@polymtl.ca wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote: >> [...] >>> >>>>>> Also, we should compare two approaches to fulfill your goal: >>>>>> one alternative would be to have application/library constructors >>>>>> explicitly call tracepoint constructors if they wish to use them. >>>>> >>>>> I would prefer this way. The former solution might not work in some >>>>> cases (e.g. with LD_PRELOAD and priority =101) and I prefer explicit >>>>> initialization in that case. >>>>> >>>>> I don't see any cons for the second approach, except making the symbols >>>>> table a few bytes larger. I'll post a patch soon so we can compare and >>>>> try to find more documentation on ctor priority. >>>> >>>> And users will have to explicitly call the constructor on which they >>>> depend, but I don't see it as a huge burden. >>> >>> The burden is small indeed. But users should pay close attention to >>> release the references in a destructor too. >>> >>>> Beware though that there are a few configurations which can be used for >>>> probe providers (see lttng-ust(3)). >>> >>> I'm not following you here. I don't see any configuration for provider >>> except TRACEPOINT_LOGLEVEL. What should I be aware of? >> >> See sections "Statically linking the tracepoint provider" and >> "Dynamically loading the tracepoint provider" from lttng-ust(3). It's >> especially the dynamic loading I am concerned about, because then it >> becomes tricky for an instrumented .so (or app) to call the probe provider's >> constructor without dlopening it beforehand, because there are no dependencies >> from the instrumented module on probe symbols. And given you plan to call >> this from a constructor, it means the dynamic loader lock is already held, >> so even if we dlopen the probe provider from the instrumented constructor, >> I am not sure the dlopen'd .so's constructor will be allowed to run >> immediately. >> >> Maybe one thing that could work for the dynamic loading case would be to: >> >> - let the instrumented constructor dlopen its probe, >> - from the instrumented constructor, use dlsym to get the probe's constructor >> symbols. >> - call those constructors. >> >> If this is common enough, maybe we would want to provide helpers for >> this. > > Okay so to be clear. __tracepoints__init() should be call first, then > __tracepoints__ptrs_init() I don't think the order matters. What makes you think otherwise ? > and then dlsym(3) on > __lttng_events_init__provider() _if_ TRACEPOINT_PROBE_DYNAMIC_LINKAGE. Yes. > > Reverse the steps in destructor. > > And so would something along these lines work? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > #ifdef TRACEPOINT_PROBE_DYNAMIC_LINKAGE > > # define tracepoint_acquire(provider) \ > do { \ > void (*init)(void); \ > __tracepoints__init(); \ > __tracepoints__ptrs_init(); \ Where is the dlopen() done ? What code is responsible for it ? > init = dlsym(RTLD_DEFAULT, \ This should use the handled returned by dlopen. > "__lttng_events_init__" #provider); \ > if (init) { \ > init(); \ > } \ > } while(0) > We may want a dlclose on the release (?) > #else > > # define tracepoint_acquire(provider) \ > do { \ > __tracepoint__init(); \ > __tracepoints_ptrs_init(); \ > _TP_COMBINE_TOKENS(__lttng_events_init__, provider)(); \ > } while(0) > > #endif > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > And then: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > #include "my-trace.h" > > __attribute__((constructor)) > static void my_ctor(void) > { > tracepoint_acquire(my_provider); > tracepoint(my_provider, my_event, my_state); > } > > __attribute__((destructor)) > static void my_ctor(void) > { > tracepoint_release(my_provider) > } > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Of course, this requires making __tracepoints__* externally visibile. Why is that so ? Thanks, Mathieu > > -- > Olivier Dion > PolyMtl -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com
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From: Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org> To: Olivier Dion <olivier.dion@polymtl.ca> Cc: lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org> Subject: Re: [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-ust] Add ctor/dtor priorities for tracepoints/events Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 14:58:48 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview] Message-ID: <1150223945.10384.1594666728119.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw) Message-ID: <20200713185848.45tDIb_g2QUkUbZRbhGpMt1yffvrNGqc9FDMFtEjfYM@z> (raw) In-Reply-To: <87lfjnxngn.fsf@clara> ----- On Jul 13, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Olivier Dion olivier.dion@polymtl.ca wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jul 2020, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote: >> ----- On Jul 13, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Olivier Dion olivier.dion@polymtl.ca wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote: >> [...] >>> >>>>>> Also, we should compare two approaches to fulfill your goal: >>>>>> one alternative would be to have application/library constructors >>>>>> explicitly call tracepoint constructors if they wish to use them. >>>>> >>>>> I would prefer this way. The former solution might not work in some >>>>> cases (e.g. with LD_PRELOAD and priority =101) and I prefer explicit >>>>> initialization in that case. >>>>> >>>>> I don't see any cons for the second approach, except making the symbols >>>>> table a few bytes larger. I'll post a patch soon so we can compare and >>>>> try to find more documentation on ctor priority. >>>> >>>> And users will have to explicitly call the constructor on which they >>>> depend, but I don't see it as a huge burden. >>> >>> The burden is small indeed. But users should pay close attention to >>> release the references in a destructor too. >>> >>>> Beware though that there are a few configurations which can be used for >>>> probe providers (see lttng-ust(3)). >>> >>> I'm not following you here. I don't see any configuration for provider >>> except TRACEPOINT_LOGLEVEL. What should I be aware of? >> >> See sections "Statically linking the tracepoint provider" and >> "Dynamically loading the tracepoint provider" from lttng-ust(3). It's >> especially the dynamic loading I am concerned about, because then it >> becomes tricky for an instrumented .so (or app) to call the probe provider's >> constructor without dlopening it beforehand, because there are no dependencies >> from the instrumented module on probe symbols. And given you plan to call >> this from a constructor, it means the dynamic loader lock is already held, >> so even if we dlopen the probe provider from the instrumented constructor, >> I am not sure the dlopen'd .so's constructor will be allowed to run >> immediately. >> >> Maybe one thing that could work for the dynamic loading case would be to: >> >> - let the instrumented constructor dlopen its probe, >> - from the instrumented constructor, use dlsym to get the probe's constructor >> symbols. >> - call those constructors. >> >> If this is common enough, maybe we would want to provide helpers for >> this. > > Okay so to be clear. __tracepoints__init() should be call first, then > __tracepoints__ptrs_init() I don't think the order matters. What makes you think otherwise ? > and then dlsym(3) on > __lttng_events_init__provider() _if_ TRACEPOINT_PROBE_DYNAMIC_LINKAGE. Yes. > > Reverse the steps in destructor. > > And so would something along these lines work? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > #ifdef TRACEPOINT_PROBE_DYNAMIC_LINKAGE > > # define tracepoint_acquire(provider) \ > do { \ > void (*init)(void); \ > __tracepoints__init(); \ > __tracepoints__ptrs_init(); \ Where is the dlopen() done ? What code is responsible for it ? > init = dlsym(RTLD_DEFAULT, \ This should use the handled returned by dlopen. > "__lttng_events_init__" #provider); \ > if (init) { \ > init(); \ > } \ > } while(0) > We may want a dlclose on the release (?) > #else > > # define tracepoint_acquire(provider) \ > do { \ > __tracepoint__init(); \ > __tracepoints_ptrs_init(); \ > _TP_COMBINE_TOKENS(__lttng_events_init__, provider)(); \ > } while(0) > > #endif > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > And then: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > #include "my-trace.h" > > __attribute__((constructor)) > static void my_ctor(void) > { > tracepoint_acquire(my_provider); > tracepoint(my_provider, my_event, my_state); > } > > __attribute__((destructor)) > static void my_ctor(void) > { > tracepoint_release(my_provider) > } > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Of course, this requires making __tracepoints__* externally visibile. Why is that so ? Thanks, Mathieu > > -- > Olivier Dion > PolyMtl -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com _______________________________________________ lttng-dev mailing list lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org https://lists.lttng.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lttng-dev
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-13 18:58 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-07-11 15:29 [PATCH lttng-ust] Add ctor/dtor priorities for tracepoints/events Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-11 15:29 ` [lttng-dev] " Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-12 13:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-12 13:49 ` [lttng-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-12 15:49 ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-12 15:49 ` [lttng-dev] " Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 13:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 13:24 ` [lttng-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 15:19 ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 15:19 ` [lttng-dev] " Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 15:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 15:28 ` [lttng-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 18:46 ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 18:46 ` [lttng-dev] " Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 18:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev [this message] 2020-07-13 18:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 19:44 ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev 2020-07-13 19:44 ` [lttng-dev] " Olivier Dion via lttng-dev
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