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From: ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-trace-users-owner@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-users <linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [lttng-dev] Capturing User-Level Function Calls/Returns
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 02:55:59 +0430	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46b174cf30872f07a08f97be1d7eb514@ut.ac.ir> (raw)
Message-ID: <20200715222559.BguzAr1zC-5n1Eq2uHpARdrgL2-qa8vzkFXLBLqUDA8@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200715174858.4698803c@oasis.local.home>

So, the only barrier to the user-level implementation is the problem 
with instruction sizes. That's an enlightening point. Thanks for the 
detailed answer!
Thanks everybody specially Steven and Mathieu.

Regards.

On 2020-07-16 02:18, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 02:09:50 +0430
> ahmadkhorrami <ahmadkhorrami@ut.ac.ir> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Steven and Mathieu,
>> Firstly, many thanks! This method seems to be the most efficient 
>> method.
>> But, IIUC, what you suggest requires source code compilation. I need 
>> an
>> efficient dynamic method that, given the function address, captures 
>> its
>> occurrence and stores some information from the execution context. Is
>> there anything better than Uprobes perhaps with no trap into the 
>> kernel?
>> Why do we need traps?
>> Regards.
> 
> Without recompiling, how would that be implemented?
> 
> You would need to insert a jump on top of code, and still be able to
> preserve that code. What a trap does, is to insert a int3, that will
> trap into the kernel, it would then emulate the code that the int3 was
> on, and also call some code that can trace the current state.
> 
> To do it in user land, you would need to find way to replace the code
> at the location you want to trace, with a jump to the tracing
> infrastructure, that will also be able to emulate the code that the
> jump was inserted on top of. As on x86, that jump will need to be 5
> bytes long (covering 5 bytes of text to emulate), where as a int3 is a
> single byte.
> 
> Thus, you either recompile and insert nops where you want to place your
> jumps, or you trap using int3 that can do the work from within the
> kernel.
> 
> -- Steve
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-16 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e9c7400ff0075f3beba2863c4432a905@ut.ac.ir>
2020-07-15 18:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-15 18:28   ` [lttng-dev] " Steven Rostedt via lttng-dev
2020-07-15 18:45   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 18:45     ` [lttng-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2020-07-15 21:39     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-07-15 21:39       ` [lttng-dev] " ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev
2020-07-15 21:48       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-15 21:48         ` [lttng-dev] " Steven Rostedt via lttng-dev
2020-07-15 22:25         ` ahmadkhorrami [this message]
2020-07-15 22:25           ` ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev
2020-07-16  1:06         ` Michel Dagenais via lttng-dev
2020-07-16  1:06           ` [lttng-dev] " Michel Dagenais via lttng-dev
2020-07-16  1:49           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-07-16  1:49             ` Frank Ch. Eigler via lttng-dev
2020-07-16 16:26             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-07-16 16:26               ` ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev
2020-07-16 16:20           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-07-16 16:20             ` ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev
2020-07-16 16:34           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-07-16 16:34             ` ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev
2020-07-16  1:04   ` Namhyung Kim
2020-07-16  1:04     ` [lttng-dev] " Namhyung Kim via lttng-dev
2020-07-16 16:07     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-07-16 16:07       ` [lttng-dev] " ahmadkhorrami via lttng-dev

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