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From: Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>
To: "Ondřej Surý" <ondrej@sury.org>
Cc: lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org, paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [lttng-dev] [PATCH 2/7] Use gcc __atomic builtis for <urcu/uatomic.h> implementation
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 14:41:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc2fd0fc-f6e3-def9-1cff-e6d86a79f644@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <912a8dd5-0451-1d11-7ffa-dd1094658c44@efficios.com>

On 2023-03-20 14:38, Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev wrote:
> On 2023-03-20 14:28, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>>
>>> On 20. 3. 2023, at 19:03, Mathieu Desnoyers 
>>> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In doc/uatomic-api.md, we document:
>>>
>>> "```c
>>> type uatomic_cmpxchg(type *addr, type old, type new);
>>> ```
>>>
>>> An atomic read-modify-write operation that performs this
>>> sequence of operations atomically: check if `addr` contains `old`.
>>> If true, then replace the content of `addr` by `new`. Return the
>>> value previously contained by `addr`. This function implies a full
>>> memory barrier before and after the atomic operation."
>>>
>>> This would map to a "__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL" semantic on cmpxchg failure
>>> rather than __ATOMIC_CONSUME".
>>
>>
>> From: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/_005f_005fatomic-Builtins.html
>>
>>> If desired is written into *ptr then true is returned and memory is 
>>> affected according to the memory order specified by success_memorder. 
>>> There are no restrictions on what memory order can be used here.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, false is returned and memory is affected according to 
>>> failure_memorder. This memory order cannot be __ATOMIC_RELEASE nor 
>>> __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL. It also cannot be a stronger order than that 
>>> specified by success_memorder.
>>
>> I think it makes sense that the failure_memorder has the same memorder 
>> as uatomic_read(), but it definitelly cannot be __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL - 
>> it's same as with __atomic_load_n, only following are permitted:
>>
>>> The valid memory order variants are __ATOMIC_RELAXED, 
>>> __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST, __ATOMIC_ACQUIRE, and __ATOMIC_CONSUME.
> 
> Based on my other reply, we want "SEQ_CST" rather than ACQ_REL everywhere.

And it _would_ make sense to use the same memorder on cmpxchg failure as 
uatomic_read if we were exposing a new API, but we are modifying an 
already exposed documented API, so I would stick to SEQ_CST for both 
cmpxchg success/failure.

If we want to expose a new cmpxchg_relaxed_failure with a relaxed 
memorder on failure that would be fine, but we cannot change the 
semantic that is already documented.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
>>
>> Ondrej
>> -- 
>> Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
>> ondrej@sury.org
>>
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-17 21:37 [lttng-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Replace the custom code with gcc/clang __atomic builtins Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 1/7] Require __atomic builtins to build Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 2/7] Use gcc __atomic builtis for <urcu/uatomic.h> implementation Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:03   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:28     ` Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:38       ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:41         ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev [this message]
2023-03-20 19:38     ` Duncan Sands via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 20:26       ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-22  8:24         ` Duncan Sands via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 3/7] Use __atomic_thread_fence() for cmm_barrier() Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:06   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:14     ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 4/7] Replace the internal pointer manipulation with __atomic builtins Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:25   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 5/7] Use __atomic builtins to implement CMM_{LOAD, STORE}_SHARED Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 6/7] Fix: uatomic_or() need retyping to uintptr_t in rculfhash.c Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:31   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 10:15     ` Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 14:44       ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 14:45         ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-17 21:37 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 7/7] Experiment: Add explicit memory barrier in free_completion() Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-20 18:37   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 10:21     ` Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 14:46       ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 14:48         ` Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 14:49           ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 14:59             ` [lttng-dev] TSAN and the tests Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 13:30 [lttng-dev] (no subject) Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 13:30 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH 2/7] Use gcc __atomic builtis for <urcu/uatomic.h> implementation Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2023-03-21 20:03   ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev

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