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From: Mat Martineau <mathew.j.martineau@linux.intel.com>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: mptcp@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 mptcp-next] mptcp: drop tx skb cache
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 15:51:32 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8636f1cb-12c2-5cf7-361a-b83880ea904@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32a776b7dd322f114e385ca406f5ca879c7831cd.camel@redhat.com>

On Wed, 26 May 2021, Paolo Abeni wrote:

> On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 15:57 -0700, Mat Martineau wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 May 2021, Paolo Abeni wrote:
>>
>>> The mentioned cache was introduced to reduce the number of skb
>>> allocation in atomic context, but the required complexity is
>>> excessive.
>>>
>>> This change remove the mentioned cache.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>> v1 -> v2:
>>> - drop unused field skb_tx_cache
>>
>> There's also a size_goal_cache field in struct mptcp_sock that's now
>> unused.
>
> yep, will do in v3 (sorry, I lost track of this review)
>
>> I like the simplification! Do the self tests trigger enough memory
>> pressure to test allocation in that scenario?
>
> Will ensure that before posting v3
>
>> The commit that introduced the skb_tx_cache did so to allow removal of the
>> skb_ext cache. It looks like both caches are now unnecessary because the
>> skb and skb_ext allocations are handled together in the
>> __mptcp_{do_,}alloc_tx_skb() functions - so an allocation failure can be
>> handled without the complexity of the caches.
>
> The cache goal was avoid/reduce skb allocation in atomic context. That
> is still true (e.g. with skb_tx_cache we have less skb allocation in
> atomic context, expecially when the transfer is link/pacing/peer
> limited). Plain TCP can allocare skbs in atomic context, but that does
> not happen often. MPTCP will do that almost for each skb,
> when link/pacing/peer limited.
>
> I think we can ignore the above, as e.g. high performance NIC device
> driver always allocate skb in atomic context.
>

I think you have a better sense of the tradeoffs with the allocation 
context than I do - from what you describe it doesn't seem like the extra 
complexity to avoid atomic allocation has a significant payoff.

>>  Does that match your
>> understanding? If so, it would be helpful information for the commit
>> message.
>
> The main trick, imho is that we still use the sk->sk_tx_skb_cache to
> prevent the TCP stack from allocating extension-less skb. That trick
> was introduced with the mptcp tx_cache.
>
> Not sure if the above clarify anything ?!?

Yes - it's helpful background, thanks!

--
Mat Martineau
Intel

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-21 16:19 [PATCH v2 mptcp-next] mptcp: drop tx skb cache Paolo Abeni
2021-05-21 22:57 ` Mat Martineau
2021-05-26 11:06   ` Paolo Abeni
2021-05-26 15:23     ` Paolo Abeni
2021-05-26 22:51     ` Mat Martineau [this message]

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