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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Elina Pasheva <epasheva@sierrawireless.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Rory Filer <rfiler@sierrawireless.com>, Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usbnet: allow status interrupt URB to always be active
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:23:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1358184201.1713.30.camel@dcbw.foobar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVOAjHMxRC=uok-OWPYjw-7D1MSnbaWo97LcGFAVRq+o2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 11:06 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 23:16 +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> >> On Friday 04 January 2013 10:48:16 Dan Williams wrote:
> >> > Some drivers (ex sierra_net) need the status interrupt URB
> >> > active even when the device is closed, because they receive
> >> > custom indications from firmware.  Allow sub-drivers to set
> >> > a flag that submits the status interrupt URB on probe and
> >> > keeps the URB alive over device open/close.  The URB is still
> >> > killed/re-submitted for suspend/resume, as before.
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
> >> > ---
> >> > Oliver: alternatively, is there a problem with *always*
> >> > submitting the interrupt URB, and then simply not calling
> >> > the subdriver's .status function when the netdev is
> >> > closed?  That would be a much simpler patch.
> >>
> >> That is quite radical. We have no idea what a device
> >> does when we do not react to a status update. I would
> >> much prefer to not take the risk.
> >> Besides, we don't use bandwidth if we don't have to.
> >
> > Ok, so scratch the alternative.  Thus, does the posted patch look like
> > the right course of action?
> >
> > If I wasn't clear enough before, sierra_net needs to listen to the
> > status interrupt URB to receive the custom Restart indication as part of
> > the driver's device setup.  Thus for sierra_net at least, tying the
> 
> I am curious who are interested in the 'custom Restart indication'
> information after the interface is closed.

It's actually before the interface is even opened.  It's really just a
sync signal that's part of the driver's setup/initialization of the
device.

> If sierra_net provides ways(such as read registers) to query the
> indication event, you can just query the information and setup
> the device in driver_info->reset() during device open, so you can
> avoid submitting interrupt URB always.

As far as I know, it does not, or at least Sierra hasn't released such
information about the firmware API of their devices.

Dan

> > status interrupt URB submission to device open/close isn't right.
> 
> In theory, drivers should support to report its link status
> even it is closed, but looks no much actual usage, so guys opt to
> submit the interrupt URB only after it is opened.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Ming Lei
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-14 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-27 14:12 strange behaviour of MC7700 with sierra_net Phil Sutter
     [not found] ` <20110727141246.GC29616-2COwY06ShZsYt6otZODPyA@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 19:40   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <1311795643.17655.13.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28 16:32       ` Phil Sutter
     [not found] ` <8F90F944E50427428C60E12A34A309D23424BB0F25@carmd-exchmb01.sierrawireless.local>
     [not found]   ` <8F90F944E50427428C60E12A34A309D23424BB0F25-3qf8vkpM5jTbmvMHnzRVpW3Pdy6AhKVLXbPIYa3/oNjDOqzlkpFKJg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-04 16:38     ` Phil Sutter
2013-01-04 16:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] usbnet: allow status interrupt URB to always be active Dan Williams
2013-01-04 16:51   ` [PATCH 2/2] sierra_net: keep status interrupt URB active over netdev open/close Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <1357318289.5370.19.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-06 18:42       ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] sierra_net: fix issues with SYNC/RESTART messages and interrupt pipe setup Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <1360176176.11742.16.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-06 20:17           ` Oliver Neukum
2013-02-07 21:09             ` Dan Williams
2013-02-06 21:11         ` Bjørn Mork
2013-02-07 17:06           ` Dan Williams
2013-02-13 11:44             ` Bjørn Mork
2013-02-13 16:34               ` Dan Williams
2013-01-04 22:16   ` [PATCH 1/2] usbnet: allow status interrupt URB to always be active Oliver Neukum
2013-01-05  1:26     ` Dan Williams
2013-01-05 11:01       ` Oliver Neukum
2013-01-05 11:44         ` Bjørn Mork
2013-01-07 15:25         ` Dan Williams
2013-01-14 17:52         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]       ` <1357349193.19684.3.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-05 10:59         ` Bjørn Mork
     [not found]           ` <87y5g7nbej.fsf-lbf33ChDnrE/G1V5fR+Y7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-07  7:40             ` Oliver Neukum
2013-01-07 15:21           ` Dan Williams
2013-01-11  3:06         ` Ming Lei
2013-01-14 17:23           ` Dan Williams [this message]
2013-01-15  1:13             ` Ming Lei
2013-02-06 18:36   ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Dan Williams
2013-02-06 20:19     ` Oliver Neukum
2013-03-28 16:30   ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] " Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <1364488207.1877.20.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 16:32       ` [PATCH 2/2 v3] sierra_net: keep status interrupt URB active Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <1364488327.1877.22.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 19:21           ` David Miller
2013-03-29 19:20       ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] usbnet: allow status interrupt URB to always be active David Miller
     [not found]     ` <CACVXFVMBAzTYZKiE_uSTqr_yB4f7c5_PSnK=LBP6=oWdWwYHfg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CACVXFVMBAzTYZKiE_uSTqr_yB4f7c5_PSnK=LBP6=oWdWwYHfg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 16:04         ` Dan Williams
2013-04-09 23:02           ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] " Dan Williams
2013-04-09 23:05             ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sierra_net: keep status interrupt URB active Dan Williams
2013-04-10  7:15               ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-10 14:57                 ` Dan Williams
2013-04-10 15:01                   ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-10  7:23             ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] usbnet: allow status interrupt URB to always be active Oliver Neukum
     [not found]               ` <2328167.HJRXSHNhKT-7ztolUikljGernLeA6q8OA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 12:49                 ` Dan Williams
2013-04-10 13:06                   ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-10 13:18                     ` Dan Williams
2013-04-10 13:29                       ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                         ` <1542762.9EJvNHlBNo-7ztolUikljGernLeA6q8OA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 13:54                           ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                             ` <1365602083.28888.40.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 13:58                               ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-10 15:01                                 ` Dan Williams
2013-04-10 18:10                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-10 20:30                                     ` [PATCH 1/2 v5] " Dan Williams
     [not found]                                       ` <1365625850.22411.1.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 20:33                                         ` [PATCH 2/2 v5] sierra_net: keep status interrupt URB active Dan Williams
2013-04-11  2:31                                         ` [PATCH 1/2 v5] usbnet: allow status interrupt URB to always be active Ming Lei
2013-04-11  6:50                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-11  8:06                                             ` Bjørn Mork
2013-04-11  8:37                                               ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11  9:59                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-11 10:04                                                 ` Bjørn Mork
2013-04-11 10:09                                                   ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11 10:19                                                   ` Ming Lei
     [not found]                                                     ` <CACVXFVNn9MQr6JLdin=u642Jb-2ZPfVk8YaBmNdhU0_2e7WJqQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11 10:26                                                       ` Bjørn Mork
2013-04-11 10:30                                                         ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11 11:08                                                           ` Bjørn Mork
     [not found]                                                             ` <87d2u1wci6.fsf-lbf33ChDnrE/G1V5fR+Y7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11 11:42                                                               ` Ming Lei
     [not found]                                                                 ` <CACVXFVO13tG606nDHth5rEA9jexj1iFHnry5ktrMpm_aGGTSvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11 11:54                                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-11 12:16                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11  8:09                                             ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11  9:53                                               ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-11 10:03                                                 ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11 11:14                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-11 12:11                                                     ` Ming Lei
2013-04-11 12:28                                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-11 12:59                                                         ` Ming Lei
     [not found]                                                           ` <CACVXFVPPzva+EwjNdxWsg4FufCc0zzzzvhGH_nLv479vT8VcxQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-12  6:37                                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-12  9:42                                                               ` Ming Lei
2013-04-12 10:02                                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-12 10:08                                                                   ` Ming Lei
2013-04-12 10:13                                                                   ` Bjørn Mork
2013-04-11 15:28                                           ` Dan Williams
2013-04-12  7:28                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-10 21:35                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-15 15:59                                       ` Dan Williams
2013-04-16  1:15                                         ` Ming Lei
2013-04-16  7:57                                           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                             ` <1637650.tuYfvStuVJ-7ztolUikljGernLeA6q8OA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17  1:56                                               ` Ming Lei
2013-04-17  6:55                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                                   ` <5581442.KzM2iaDSQ0-7ztolUikljGernLeA6q8OA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-18  3:51                                                     ` Ming Lei
2013-04-19  8:25                                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2013-04-24 12:31                                                         ` Dan Williams
2013-04-25 13:00                                                           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]             ` <1365548547.23372.2.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 13:25               ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] " Bjørn Mork
2013-04-10 13:31                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                 ` <1365604263.28888.56.camel@dcbw.foobar.com>
2013-04-10 15:21                   ` Bjørn Mork

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