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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/6] kthread: warn on kill signal if not OOM
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 11:14:08 +0200
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Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
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To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>
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On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 00:47 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: 
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 11:37:24PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > ...
> >> +             /*
> >> +              * I got SIGKILL, but wait for 60 more seconds for completion
> >> +              * unless chosen by the OOM killer. This delay is there as a
> >> +              * workaround for boot failure caused by SIGKILL upon device
> >> +              * driver initialization timeout.
> >> +              *
> >> +              * N.B. this will actually let the thread complete regularly,
> >> +              * wait_for_completion() will be used eventually, the 60 second
> >> +              * try here is just to check for the OOM over that time.
> >> +              */
> >> +             WARN_ONCE(!test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE),
> >> +                       "Got SIGKILL but not from OOM, if this issue is on probe use .driver.async_probe\n");
> >> +             for (i = 0; i < 60 && !test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE); i++)
> >> +                     if (wait_for_completion_timeout(&done, HZ))
> >> +                             goto wait_done;
> >> +
> >
> > Ugh... Jesus, this is way too hacky, so now we fail on 90s timeout
> > instead of 30?
> 
> Nope! I fell into the same trap and only with tons of patience by part
> of Tetsuo with me was I able to grok that the 60 seconds here are not
> for increasing the timeout, this is just time spent checking to ensure
> that the OOM wasn't the one who triggered the SIGKILL. Even if the
> drivers took eons it should be fine now, I tried it :D
> 
> >  Why do we even need this with the proposed async
> > probing changes?
> 
> Ah -- well without it the way we "find" drivers that need this new
> "async feature" is by a bug report and folks saying their system can't
> boot, or they say their device doesn't come up. That's all. Tracing
> this to systemd and a timeout was one of the most ugliest things ever.
> There two insane bug reports you can go check:
> 
> mptsas was the first:
> 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1669550
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1297248

<quote>
(2) Currently systemd-udevd unconditionally sends SIGKILL upon hardcoded
    30 seconds timeout. As a result, finit_module() of mptsas kernel
    module receives SIGKILL when waiting for error handler thread to be
    started.
</quote>

Hm.  Why is this not a systemd-udevd bug for running around killing
stuff when it has no idea whether progress is being made or not?

-Mike