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From: Koichiro Den <den@klaipeden.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] virtio-net: invoke zerocopy callback on xmit path if no tx napi
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:26:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1503498375.8694.25.camel@klaipeden.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF=yD-JyLEUgUgeH5TjRUj2wz9CjRkAx1HUyXRxCDyT5iHx-sg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2017-08-22 at 13:19 -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > >         /* Don't wait up for transmitted skbs to be freed. */
> > > > >         if (!use_napi) {
> > > > > +               if (skb_shinfo(skb)->tx_flags & SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY) {
> > > > > +                       struct ubuf_info *uarg;
> > > > > +                       uarg = skb_shinfo(skb)->destructor_arg;
> > > > > +                       if (uarg->callback)
> > > > > +                           uarg->callback(uarg, true);
> > > > > +                       skb_shinfo(skb)->destructor_arg = NULL;
> > > > > +                       skb_shinfo(skb)->tx_flags &=
> > > > > ~SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY;
> > > > > +               }
> > > > 
> > > > Instead of open coding, this can use skb_zcopy_clear.
> > > 
> > > It is not correct to only send the zerocopy completion here, as
> > > the skb will still be shared with the nic. The only safe approach
> > > to notifying early is to create a copy with skb_orphan_frags_rx.
> > > That will call skb_zcopy_clear(skb, false) internally. But the
> > > copy will be very expensive.
> > 
> > I noticed this email after my last post. I cannot not imagine how it could
> > be
> > unsafe in virtio case. Sorry could you explain a bit more?
> 
> A guest process sends a packet with MSG_ZEROCOPY to the
> virtio-net device. As soon as the process receives the completion
> notification, it is allowed to reuse the memory backing the packet.
> 
> A call to skb_zcopy_clear in virtio-net start_xmit will notify the
> process that it is allowed to reuse the memory. But the user pages
> are still linked into the skb frags and are about to be shared with
> the host os.
> 
> > > Is the deadlock you refer to the case where tx interrupts are
> > > disabled, so transmit completions are only handled in start_xmit
> > > and somehow the socket(s) are unable to send new data? The
> > > question is what is blocking them. If it is zerocopy, it may be a
> > > too low optmem_max or hitting the per-user locked pages limit.
> > > We may have to keep interrupts enabled when zerocopy skbs
> > > are in flight.
> > 
> > Even if we keep interrupts enabled, We miss the completion without
> > start_xmit.
> > And it's also likely that the next start_xmit depends on the completion
> > itself
> > as I described in my last post.
> > 
Thanks for the explanation, I misinterpreted the "nic" part, now it's clear.
Sorry about bothering.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-23 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-19  6:38 [PATCH net-next] virtio-net: invoke zerocopy callback on xmit path if no tx napi Koichiro Den
2017-08-20 20:49 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-21 12:40   ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-22 12:11   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-22 14:04     ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-22 17:19       ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-23 14:26         ` Koichiro Den [this message]
2017-08-21 12:33 ` Jason Wang
2017-08-21 12:58   ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-21 15:41   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-22  2:50     ` Jason Wang
2017-08-22  3:10       ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-22 11:47         ` Jason Wang
2017-08-22 13:42         ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-22 17:16           ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-23 14:24             ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-22 17:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-22 18:01         ` David Miller
2017-08-22 18:28           ` Eric Dumazet
2017-08-22 18:39             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-23 14:28         ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-23 14:47           ` Koichiro Den
2017-08-23 15:20           ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-23 22:57             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-24  3:28               ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-24  4:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-24 13:50                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-24 20:20                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-24 20:50                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-25 22:44                       ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-25 23:32                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-26  1:03                           ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-29 19:35                             ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-29 19:42                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-29 19:53                                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-29 20:40                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-29 22:55                                     ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-08-30  1:45                               ` Jason Wang
2017-08-30  3:11                                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-01  3:08                                   ` Jason Wang
2017-08-31 14:30                               ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-01  3:25                                 ` Jason Wang
2017-09-01 16:15                                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-01 16:17                                     ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-04  3:03                                       ` Jason Wang
2017-09-05 14:09                                         ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-06  3:27                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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