From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mike Galbraith Subject: Re: tip -ENOBOOT - bisected to locking/refcounts, x86/asm: Implement fast refcount overflow protection Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 06:38:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1504154298.23109.23.camel@gmx.de> References: <1503996623.8323.20.camel@gmx.de> <1504025721.6024.25.camel@gmx.de> <1504030207.6560.0.camel@gmx.de> <1504069332.8352.3.camel@gmx.de> <1504113212.5852.6.camel@gmx.de> <1504115735.5852.11.camel@gmx.de> <1504145389.23109.4.camel@gmx.de> <1504149176.23109.9.camel@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: LKML , Ingo Molnar , "Reshetova, Elena" , Network Development To: Kees Cook , "David S. Miller" , Peter Zijlstra Return-path: Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:64841 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750883AbdHaEjI (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:39:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 21:10 -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote: > >> On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 19:27 -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting! Can you try with 633547973ffc3 ("net: convert > >>> sk_buff.users from atomic_t to refcount_t") reverted? I'll see if > >>> running haveged will help me trigger this on my system... > >> > >> With that (plus 230cd1279d001 fix to it) reverted, vbox boots. > > > > Wonderful! Thank you so much for helping track this down. > > > > So, it seems that sk_buff.users will need some more special attention > > before we can convert it to refcount. > > > > x86-refcount will saturate with refcount_dec_and_test() if the result > > is negative. But that would mean at least starting at 0. FULL should > > have WARNed in this case, so I remain slightly confused why it was > > missed by FULL. > > Actually, if this is a race condition it's possible that FULL is slow > enough to miss it... > > I bet something briefly takes the refcount negative, and with > unchecked atomics, it come back up positive again during the race. > FULL may miss the race, and x86-refcount will catch it and saturate... Hm, I'll go have a stare.. not that that's likely to turn anything up, memory ordering stares usually inducing a zombie like state. -Mike